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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2024, 11:52:35 AM »
This just makes me ill. They could tweek a few things and the Dec 1 tag sale would go so smooth. Now we are gonna be forced into yet another draw system. So instead of hunting idaho every year, there will be no guarantee of a tag unless you apply for something that has hundreds of tags like 39 and 43 deer. 

And how will the draw be conducted? 1, 2, 3, or 4 choices? Group apps? Point system? Will leftover tags also go to a draw? This is a prime example of hunters being their own worst enemy imo. One of the few otc opportunities left in the west and we are gonna piss it down the drain🤦‍♂️

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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2024, 12:04:20 PM »
Honestly, why wouldnt it?   I can't imagine a resident opposing it, except maybe a store owner
The vendor is going to lose out on the markups they were collecting for a place in line.

Also would be glad to see the ability to proxy purchase go away.


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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2024, 12:05:11 PM »
This just makes me ill. They could tweek a few things and the Dec 1 tag sale would go so smooth. Now we are gonna be forced into yet another draw system. So instead of hunting idaho every year, there will be no guarantee of a tag unless you apply for something that has hundreds of tags like 39 and 43 deer. 

And how will the draw be conducted? 1, 2, 3, or 4 choices? Group apps? Point system? Will leftover tags also go to a draw? This is a prime example of hunters being their own worst enemy imo. One of the few otc opportunities left in the west and we are gonna piss it down the drain
The Idaho department will get to hammer out the details.  Party app, choices etc.


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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2024, 12:29:00 PM »
This pertains to other tags only. The LE draw won't change.
I'm not so sure on that.  It could very easily be a case of adding the NR allocation to the regular draw. Basically forcing folks to skip controlled hunts if they want the best chance at what are currently 'otc' tags.  This model would be consistent with Idaho's history of keeping odds as best as possible by forcing hunters to choose amongst competing options.

I'm not saying this will definitely be the case, but I don't think its out of the question.
  :dunno: simply addresses otc purchases. They would be fools to lump otc Quota in with the LE draw. That's a lot of app fees they'd miss out on not to mention they would get far less participation having to wait till june :twocents:
If the bill passes, IDFG will have to have a public process on establishing the new draw and I can all but guarantee Residents are going to very much push the idea of putting the NR tags in the main draw and forcing a choice...because its an 'up to' 10% state on the CH draws, so fewer NR applicants for CH = more tags for Residents.

I agree they miss out on app fees, but if they just wanted free money they would start a point system (which will never happen) and they would let you apply for M,S,G, AND D,E,A.

I don't agree on the less participation if they wait till june.  There will be no meaningful reduction in revenue or tags sold.

To be clear - I'd much rather they just clean up the current process...and thats what IDFG staff want to do as well.  Stop the multi-party purchases, make the online portal equal (not 28 devices and bots) etc.  Rarely do we see any good come from Legislatures meddling in these affairs...regardless of the state or the politics.
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2024, 12:36:42 PM »
Can't say I blame them.  How many Washington hunters are now looking towards Idaho for their hunting opportunities now that Washington is so mismanaged.   They also have to respond to their boost in residents now that Washington is so uninhabitable.
Thank you for this opinion, although it is probably wildly unpopular with the WA homies. But it is common sense. Our state has become inundated with new resident transplants.

For the others here? 
Take your crying elsewhere. Your state has pissed it's own system down the drain, and you and others gaining an unfair advantage due to proximity is about to end.  Good on Idaho. Always cracks me up to see the whining about our system (and subsequent changes) from those whose states have virtually destroyed their own resource and offer virtually NOTHING to those of us in neighboring states.

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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2024, 12:39:02 PM »
They could also split deer and elk to different sale days. Using me as an example, I could care less about elk so I'm potentially taking a low que number from someone shopping for an elk tag.

I guess time will tell but I'd wager a good amount that they keep LE separate from general  :twocents:
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2024, 01:09:21 PM »
i like it alot, i also think its absolutely hilarious that a guy who admits to cheating the system with multiple devices is also upset with a possible change.

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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2024, 01:14:25 PM »
i like it alot, i also think its absolutely hilarious that a guy who admits to cheating the system with multiple devices is also upset with a possible change.
hate the game not the player. I've been advocating for changes to the tag sale since the very first year. Feel free to search back in these annual idaho tags for proof of that. No different than anything else. Scopes on muzzy's for example. I hope we never see it but if it happens I'm sure gonna put one on my muzzleloader. The one man boycott is a pointless endeavor.
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2024, 01:18:10 PM »
Can't say I blame them.  How many Washington hunters are now looking towards Idaho for their hunting opportunities now that Washington is so mismanaged.   They also have to respond to their boost in residents now that Washington is so uninhabitable.
Thank you for this opinion, although it is probably wildly unpopular with the WA homies. But it is common sense. Our state has become inundated with new resident transplants.

For the others here? 
Take your crying elsewhere. Your state has pissed it's own system down the drain, and you and others gaining an unfair advantage due to proximity is about to end.  Good on Idaho. Always cracks me up to see the whining about our system (and subsequent changes) from those whose states have virtually destroyed their own resource and offer virtually NOTHING to those of us in neighboring states.
how about almost single handedly funding your game department which allows you to have hilariously low tag costs as well as dumping MILLIONS into Idahos local economies. 

My question for you is why are you whining about a potential change to the NON RESIDENT allocation of tags which has no effect on Idaho resident opportunities  :chuckle:
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2024, 01:23:57 PM »
Karl, sounds like a done deal on that 1x muzzy scope, let me know what you are getting!!
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2024, 01:26:45 PM »
Karl, sounds like a done deal on that 1x muzzy scope, let me know what you are getting!!
Same one I'll use in Utah since they went backwards with their rules which I was elated to see.
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2024, 01:27:10 PM »
DEC 1 is such a $4it show that I kind of want a draw. Especially if they are letting be know before christmas.
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2024, 01:33:24 PM »
If I was a betting man I'd put money down that most of you advocating for a draw will be singing a different tune 5 years from now

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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2024, 01:36:17 PM »
If I was a betting man I'd put money down that most of you advocating for a draw will be singing a different tune 5 years from now

It would let a guy and his buddies put in together; you all get it or you dont. If you dont you can start planning another state. Instead of one guy getting it and the others trying to gamble on left overs until its too late.
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2024, 01:36:39 PM »
DEC 1 is such a $4it show that I kind of want a draw. Especially if they are letting be know before christmas.
I guess it all comes down to what you're after. For me I want a tag. A Dec 1 sale as is gives me a tag. Maybe not my first choice but I'll get a tag. I've had numbers in the 30k+ that have gotten me tags. With a draw (obviously speculative) but it's not even remotely a guarantee unless you're picking 39 deer as your first choice.

They could separate deer and elk to different days, eliminate the multiple devices, eliminate the tag buying for buddies, and create a system where you could que in as partners or a group of some sort and it would streamline the entire thing. Instead we are gonna create another draw monster.
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