1x scopes vs open sights

[Limhangerslayer]

I have a peep with the crosshair globe and a 1x scope.  I’ve shot both and really don’t see a difference.  I shot my spike at 172 and 198 this year, both good shots.  The only thing that the scope will help in my opinion is early or late morning in timber.

[Wanttohuntmore]

It really helps those with old eyes.  Never had a problem with my peep sights until recently, so I understand the want. I tried to find a fixed 1x and can't seem to find any.   I remember some in the past.

[Cougeyes]

It really helps those with old eyes.  Never had a problem with my peep sights until recently, so I understand the want. I tried to find a fixed 1x and can't seem to find any.   I remember some in the past.

Vortex sells one.

[huntnnw]

Anyone who says there’s no benefit hasn’t shot one. I was able to use one years ago in UT with a turret. I coulda shot out to 300 yards easily . Shot my buck at 224 yards which I woulda never done with my open sights. Aiming point is so much easier and accurate

[James]

Light gathering.

The smaller the peep sight the better the accuracy, but the less light you get.  It really becomes apparent at first/last light and when the animal you are trying to shoot is in some brush or whatever with poor contrast (even in the middle of the day).

1x scope doesn't have these problems.

[kentrek]

Utah noted only a 3-4% increase in success going from no scopes to unlimited scopes

1x scope would be substantially less then that

I say give it to them and call it a wrap

[duckmen1]

It really helps those with old eyes.  Never had a problem with my peep sights until recently, so I understand the want. I tried to find a fixed 1x and can't seem to find any.   I remember some in the past.

Vortex sells one.

I believe Vortex 1x scope is discontinued. I have not seen any options that are still in production from main brands. Only red dots.

[Magnum_Willys]

My eye sight is not great tho I don’t use corrective lenses.  With my state of the art muzzy with factory open sights I’m confident to 85 yards.   With my 1x I’m good to 300 yards.   Get it done!   There are no “primitive” weapons just different seasons. 

[Ghost Hunter]

It really helps those with old eyes.  Never had a problem with my peep sights until recently, so I understand the want. I tried to find a fixed 1x and can't seem to find any.   I remember some in the past.

   I support it.  MZ aren't primitive weapons anymore, if taking advantage of all the rules.  I've worn glasses since I was a child.  Hunted with a scope most of my life.  70 now and sight has deteriorated with age.  Focusing on sights and target isn't possible.  I have a 1x Hawke on the shelf I might use or sell if the change goes thru.  Most likely I'll continue to use a crossbow for all seasons.  I do have the disabled permit. 

[huntnnw]

It really helps those with old eyes.  Never had a problem with my peep sights until recently, so I understand the want. I tried to find a fixed 1x and can't seem to find any.   I remember some in the past.

Vortex sells one.

I believe Vortex 1x scope is discontinued. I have not seen any options that are still in production from main brands. Only red dots.

You can remove the magnifier on the 1-4x vortex. What I used in Utah and dialable . Whole point of these primitive seasons . Want a scope ? Pick up a rifle nobody is forcing you to muzzy hunt

[TeacherMan]

I wish they’d of had this option for my dad when he was alive. He quit muzzleloader hunting because he couldn’t ethically see through the open sights anymore.

[buckfvr]

Everyone can scope a muzzleloader and hunt the general seasons and bears.  If you prefer the season timing of the primitive weapons seasons, keep it primitive, NO scopes.  No argument to it, primitive weapons means just that. They've conceded more than enough as it is, see Idaho.

[boneaddict]

My opinion isnt polically correct for the current social media vibe. 
Muzzels are too modern now to have their own season.   10 seconds until the first cry baby comes on and says we should all bond together and sing kumbaya.   

[Karl Blanchard]

Everyone can scope a muzzleloader and hunt the general seasons and bears.  If you prefer the season timing of the primitive weapons seasons, keep it primitive, NO scopes.  No argument to it, primitive weapons means just that. They've conceded more than enough as it is, see Idaho.

amen.

[Bullkllr]

Everyone can scope a muzzleloader and hunt the general seasons and bears.  If you prefer the season timing of the primitive weapons seasons, keep it primitive, NO scopes.  No argument to it, primitive weapons means just that. They've conceded more than enough as it is, see Idaho.

amen.