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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2024, 07:59:18 AM »
It's important for the hunting community to strongly condemn this sort of depravity,  and it has nothing to do with the antihunting crowd. It is correct that nothing we do will sway those people. It is the broad mass of non-hunters we need to reach with a message that we are conservationists, that we care about the broad spectrum of wildlife, that we have ethics.  That group of people comprises the majority of voters, and we need to keep them on our side.  The future of hunting does depend on that. :twocents:

Well said.

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2024, 08:06:48 AM »
Humptulips, I thought the same thing.   It looks photoshopped
Or it isn't a wild wolf at all. Makes me think of the pictures HSUS ran when they were campaigning for I-713 to ban bodygripping traps. They had a coyote sitting there with a conibear on its neck, alive with sad eyes. That just does not happen and neither does a wild wolf sit there and let you put your arm around it and not make an attempt to pull away. I'll add the story says he ran over it with a snowmobile yet I don't see any signs of injury.
Most have heard about the films of a guy skinning a fox alive in China. Turns out an animal rights group out of Europe paid the guy to do it and filmed it all. I would not put it past them to manufacture this story and plant it in the press.
Color me suspicious.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2024, 08:18:36 AM »
I read many of your comments and then decided to not even read the article.  He sound like a real wack-job.  Too many sick, messed up people in this world.  Years ago I quit watching the news at night because it was all negative. 

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2024, 10:52:36 AM »
 :yeah:
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/antiís then you are sorely mistaken.

 Iím as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

Agree 100% antis could care less


 Iím with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it canít be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
« Last Edit: April 08, 2024, 10:59:33 AM by Gobble »

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2024, 11:26:19 AM »
That's a sad and disturbing photo. That man has no respect for life.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2024, 11:35:19 AM »
:yeah:
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/antiís then you are sorely mistaken.

 Iím as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

Agree 100% antis could care less


 Iím with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it canít be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:

Itís not about appeasing the antis. First itís about doing the right thing as a group. As hunters we Should be calling this POS out for what he is. Second itís about showing the people on the fence or in the middle who we are as a group. You wonít convince the antis of anything but they only make up a very very small percentage of the population. Staying silent on things like this gives the appearance of indifference or even complicity. No need to stay silent. Call these things what they are and hopefully he gets everything he deserves.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2024, 11:46:47 AM »
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/antiís then you are sorely mistaken.

 Iím as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

 Iím with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it canít be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:

The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2024, 12:08:51 PM »
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/antiís then you are sorely mistaken.

 Iím as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

 Iím with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it canít be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:

The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.

 :yeah:

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2024, 12:35:52 PM »
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/antiís then you are sorely mistaken.

 Iím as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

 Iím with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it canít be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:

The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.

We should oppose it because it is wrong, who cares about what the anti's think? I dont mind wolves dying prematurely when they need to. I care about any animal being unnecessarily tortured. That is a baseline position I hope everybody here shares; if they dont I would rather know than not know a person I should avoid.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2024, 12:39:41 PM »
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/antiís then you are sorely mistaken.

 Iím as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

 Iím with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it canít be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:

The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.

:yeah:
Bingo. Nailed it.
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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2024, 12:43:45 PM »
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/antiís then you are sorely mistaken.

 Iím as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

 Iím with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it canít be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:

The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.

We should oppose it because it is wrong, who cares about what the anti's think? I dont mind wolves dying prematurely when they need to. I care about any animal being unnecessarily tortured. That is a baseline position I hope everybody here shares; if they dont I would rather know than not know a person I should avoid.

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2024, 01:15:48 PM »
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/antiís then you are sorely mistaken.

 Iím as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:

 Iím with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it canít be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:

The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.

We should oppose it because it is wrong, who cares about what the anti's think? I dont mind wolves dying prematurely when they need to. I care about any animal being unnecessarily tortured. That is a baseline position I hope everybody here shares; if they dont I would rather know than not know a person I should avoid.

 :yeah:

I cant stand by and see an animal being tortured because a man is a weak coward and needs to feel powerful. Its kind of like abusing a spouse or children. I would like to know if someone like that is hunting where I hunt. I went out hunting with a group of guys I knew one time only to find I out later that one of them shoots hawks and eagles and practically anything that moves, cuz its fun, and I felt like 💩  for a while afterwards and thought to myself, how many people saw me with him and now wonder if I am doing the same thing. It's nice to know who you should avoid being around and who you don't want to be considered any more than a minor acquaintance of if you do cross paths with them. This is one of those situations.

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2024, 01:24:19 PM »
If we were talking about child molesters, I would have a different opinion.

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2024, 01:26:00 PM »
I took a picture of a dead bobcat that froze in a sitting position. Good picture. Looked more alive than the wolf in that picture.

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Re: Man tortures wolf before killing it
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2024, 01:45:52 PM »
Also, I have taped tags to wolves feet, and Iíve taped tags in wolves mouthsÖ.dead wolves that is.

 


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