Westside Elk Raffle Tag - Banned for Life - video added**

[Bob Williams1]

I would like to take a chance to apologize to CJensen-

I sent him a personal version of this message and he graciously accepted my apology. I don't feel it was right to come at somebody with my whole chest, and then when you have a chance to reflect on what you're actually feeding into, and feel differently about it, you quietly send him and apology. I wanted to share that apology with all of you who sadly bore witness to a bunch pi$$y feelings over something that wasn't really my issue.

CJensen-

I have pulled all the messages, that i could,  that were posted yesterday on the thread that were filled with a bunch of emoti...SHEEEEET actually regarding the Kapowsin hunt. Having looked at your guys' videos and your family doing great things together, I have to apologize for my diatribe(s) and contributing to any of the vitriol that has come your way as a result of my "opinion" on what happened.

You honestly seem..You are a solid guy who loves and enjoys the outdoors to the fullest. I can totally appreciate all the effort you put into your hunts and the brotherhood you guys have out in the middle of nowhere. . I still don't agree...never mind its my problem not yours. 

Please accept my apology as i know it's a tough situation for you personally and doesn't get any better or change anything as we kick you when your down. Fellow outdoorsmen should'nt act that way to each other and i'm sorry for being any part of it.

Again I apologize and wish you continued success on your hunts and your brothers videos ARE good and something he should be proud of.

Bob

[cjensen]

I would like to take a chance to apologize to CJensen-

I sent him a personal version of this message and he graciously accepted my apology. I don't feel it was right to come at somebody with my whole chest, and then when you have a chance to reflect on what you're actually feeding into, and feel differently about it, you quietly send him and apology. I wanted to share that apology with all of you who sadly bore witness to a bunch pi$$y feelings over something that wasn't really my issue.

CJensen-

I have pulled all the messages, that i could,  that were posted yesterday on the thread that were filled with a bunch of emoti...SHEEEEET actually regarding the Kapowsin hunt. Having looked at your guys' videos and your family doing great things together, I have to apologize for my diatribe(s) and contributing to any of the vitriol that has come your way as a result of my "opinion" on what happened.

You honestly seem..You are a solid guy who loves and enjoys the outdoors to the fullest. I can totally appreciate all the effort you put into your hunts and the brotherhood you guys have out in the middle of nowhere. . I still don't agree...never mind its my problem not yours. 

Please accept my apology as i know it's a tough situation for you personally and doesn't get any better or change anything as we kick you when your down. Fellow outdoorsmen should'nt act that way to each other and i'm sorry for being any part of it.

Again I apologize and wish you continued success on your hunts and your brothers videos ARE good and something he should be proud of.

Bob

Thanks again Bob. Much appreciated.

[Rainier10]

Solid move Bob.

If anyone wants to modify their previous posts or have heir post completely removed hit the report to moderator button or pm me.

There is some great discussion to be had here but we don’t want to trash a guy for sharing his story.

[ducks4days]

I would like to take a chance to apologize to CJensen-

I sent him a personal version of this message and he graciously accepted my apology. I don't feel it was right to come at somebody with my whole chest, and then when you have a chance to reflect on what you're actually feeding into, and feel differently about it, you quietly send him and apology. I wanted to share that apology with all of you who sadly bore witness to a bunch pi$$y feelings over something that wasn't really my issue.

CJensen-

I have pulled all the messages, that i could,  that were posted yesterday on the thread that were filled with a bunch of emoti...SHEEEEET actually regarding the Kapowsin hunt. Having looked at your guys' videos and your family doing great things together, I have to apologize for my diatribe(s) and contributing to any of the vitriol that has come your way as a result of my "opinion" on what happened.

You honestly seem..You are a solid guy who loves and enjoys the outdoors to the fullest. I can totally appreciate all the effort you put into your hunts and the brotherhood you guys have out in the middle of nowhere. . I still don't agree...never mind its my problem not yours. 

Please accept my apology as i know it's a tough situation for you personally and doesn't get any better or change anything as we kick you when your down. Fellow outdoorsmen should'nt act that way to each other and i'm sorry for being any part of it.

Again I apologize and wish you continued success on your hunts and your brothers videos ARE good and something he should be proud of.

Bob

Good on you for saying this and doing it publicly. The world we be a better place if people showed more humility and honor like you do. Much respect.

[Fidelk]

This is a great thread......a great achievement (undiminished by the paperwork generated opinions).......accusations of sin followed by salvation.....two brothers out on a quest......we are approaching a Biblical epic......I love this stuff because I ain't gonna match it unless I hock the family farm and go on a New Zealand hunt.

[Karl Blanchard]

I'm still a little blown away that mods have turned a blind eye to this thread. It's a success thread and we are supposed to have VERY strict rules about trashing on a success thread   Obviously the OP has thick skin and can handle it but that shouldn't matter. It's pretty disappointing if I'm being honest

[westsidehntr]

I'm still a little blown away that mods have turned a blind eye to this thread. It's a success thread and we are supposed to have VERY strict rules about trashing on a success thread   Obviously the OP has thick skin and can handle it but that shouldn't matter. It's pretty disappointing if I'm being honest

Ehhh… The OP puts banned for life in his title, states multiple times he knows by posting it he is opening himself up to criticism. I think it was part of his intent to have the controversial discussion on this thread.

[Karl Blanchard]

I'm still a little blown away that mods have turned a blind eye to this thread. It's a success thread and we are supposed to have VERY strict rules about trashing on a success thread   Obviously the OP has thick skin and can handle it but that shouldn't matter. It's pretty disappointing if I'm being honest

Ehhh… The OP puts banned for life in his title, states multiple times he knows by posting it he is opening himself up to criticism. I think it was part of his intent to have the controversial discussion on this thread.

irrelevant.  The rule that's been pounded home endlessly is no bashing success threads.  There's endless repercussions to the bashing.  Site traffic is down like 75% from just a few years ago.  Bashing of success is one of the many reasons for that. 

[Rainier10]

I'm still a little blown away that mods have turned a blind eye to this thread. It's a success thread and we are supposed to have VERY strict rules about trashing on a success thread   Obviously the OP has thick skin and can handle it but that shouldn't matter. It's pretty disappointing if I'm being honest

Ehhh… The OP puts banned for life in his title, states multiple times he knows by posting it he is opening himself up to criticism. I think it was part of his intent to have the controversial discussion on this thread.

irrelevant.  The rule that's been pounded home endlessly is no bashing success threads.  There's endless repercussions to the bashing.  Site traffic is down like 75% from just a few years ago.  Bashing of success is one of the many reasons for that.

I immediately locked this thread and removed it from the forum while’s mods discussed it and discussed it with OP. He wanted it to remain and wanted there to be discussion. He knew it was controversial.

Since then I have again discussed with him how he wanted to proceed and here we are.

I will say that the forum rules still apply to all other success threads. This one is the exception to that rule.

I appreciate your concern and I feel the same way you do.

[Karl Blanchard]

I'm still a little blown away that mods have turned a blind eye to this thread. It's a success thread and we are supposed to have VERY strict rules about trashing on a success thread   Obviously the OP has thick skin and can handle it but that shouldn't matter. It's pretty disappointing if I'm being honest

Ehhh… The OP puts banned for life in his title, states multiple times he knows by posting it he is opening himself up to criticism. I think it was part of his intent to have the controversial discussion on this thread.

irrelevant.  The rule that's been pounded home endlessly is no bashing success threads.  There's endless repercussions to the bashing.  Site traffic is down like 75% from just a few years ago.  Bashing of success is one of the many reasons for that.

I immediately locked this thread and removed it from the forum while’s mods discussed it and discussed it with OP. He wanted it to remain and wanted there to be discussion. He knew it was controversial.

Since then I have again discussed with him how he wanted to proceed and here we are.

I will say that the forum rules still apply to all other success threads. This one is the exception to that rule.

I appreciate your concern and I feel the same way you do.

Fair enough.  Thank you for the clarification.  Like you, I still don't like it at all. 

[nwhunter]

Great bull and congrats on your tags!! Sometimes you have to get creative they say

[cjensen]

I ended up just doing a euro mount.  Thought y'all might want to check it out. By the way, Kapowsin did send WDFW officers out to my house to get the key.  I had already sent it back to them but they must have misplaced it.  The officers have a MOU with them to do their private bidding.  I asked the officer if he was familiar with their rules, and he said that of course he was familiar as that was his job.  I asked him if I broke any rules or was in any sort of trouble.  He said I was not, and that they were in the process of modifying their rules now.

[Taco280AI]

WDFW out chasing keys around instead of enforcing rules and being in the field 

[HntnFsh]

They get contracted out. Usually do this stuff in there off hours.

[cjensen]

WDFW out chasing keys around instead of enforcing rules and being in the field 

Yup...pretty dumb!  The guy was very nice and clearly was not happy to be out running errands.