Tribes must be at the table when natural resources policies are written.

[HntnFsh]

Hmmm, a soverign who has year round seasons, no bag limits,  no weapon restrictions, allows night hunting comanaging our seasons, what could go wrong.
Oh ya, no skin in the game either.

Very uninformed and uneducated post.

What he's saying is a little ezlxtreme. But not real far off.

[Tbar]

Hmmm, a soverign who has year round seasons, no bag limits,  no weapon restrictions, allows night hunting comanaging our seasons, what could go wrong.
Oh ya, no skin in the game either.

Very uninformed and uneducated post.

What he's saying is a little ezlxtreme. But not real far off.

Way off.

[templar021]

Maybe try hunting when the nez poachers are out and about and you will see who is uninformec

[Meathunter06]

Maybe try hunting when the nez poachers are out and about and you will see who is uninformec

  I think Tbar may be way off

[KrisKamm27]

 Co-manage sounds fine with me if the ones asking are willing to cover half the management costs and abide by one uniform set of rules for everyone?

[Tbar]

Without the tribes hatchery production would be reduced or eliminated by this commission.  They continue to ask for significant reduction even even there are not ESA implications.

[ghosthunter]

Maybe try hunting when the nez poachers are out and about and you will see who is uninformec

  I think Tbar may be way off

I would bet that Tbar  is  better informed on Wildlife Management and wildlife issues than most folks on this forum. 

 

[Tbar]

Maybe try hunting when the nez poachers are out and about and you will see who is uninformec

  I think Tbar may be way off

You are welcome to think what you want.  As with this opposition to the current commission, I choose facts over feelings. That is with the caveat that "tribes" are not a monolith and levels of investment and engagement vary.  I would still maintain the position that tribes must be present.  They are adjudicated comanagers, full stop, not up for debate or opinions. 

[Tbar]

This forum topic is largely centered around malicious intent of the current commission.  At the center of this is(hopefully was) are policies like the conservation policy(and others) that on the surface look benign.  When you dig into them and consider the opponents play book it would very likely open many doors where things are open to multiple interpretation and lack clear intent.  That policy was written by people like Koontz, Beardslee, Allen, Davis and Moskowitz. All of them play unique roles on this shell of a commission.  If you have any desire to perpetuate the passions enjoyed  by the hook and bullet demographic you may want to think twice about who your enemies are and where threats lie. 

[trophyhunt]

Hmmm, a soverign who has year round seasons, no bag limits,  no weapon restrictions, allows night hunting comanaging our seasons, what could go wrong.
Oh ya, no skin in the game either.

Very uninformed and uneducated post.

for your tribe maybe, but please, please tell us this isn’t the truth for the yakamas ?  Go ahead..

[trophyhunt]

Can’t wait for the word salad..

[dwils233]

Maybe try hunting when the nez poachers are out and about and you will see who is uninformec

  I think Tbar may be way off

You are welcome to think what you want.  As with this opposition to the current commission, I choose facts over feelings. That is with the caveat that "tribes" are not a monolith and levels of investment and engagement vary.  I would still maintain the position that tribes must be present.  They are adjudicated comanagers, full stop, not up for debate or opinions. 

I mean that's it right? If you don't like it, if it makes you mad,  you think it's unfair, etc. etc. that I see all the time -it doesn't matter. The most foundational law of the land isn't changing because it upsets some folks. And if it does, we've got bigger problems than who shot an elk or caught some salmon. In the meantime, common sense showed we have a lot more in common, and a serious common threat to deal with it.

[HUNTIN4SIX]

Without the tribes hatchery production would be reduced or eliminated by this commission.  They continue to ask for significant reduction even even there are not ESA implications.

Now that I agree with because it was something my career involved.  I personally saw a major hatchery reduction in my career driven by lack of money, PUD and the wild salmon BS influence.  Some fisheries exist mostly due to tribal influence.  On the contrary I've seen tribes manipulate the state an say there were salmon in areas where they never existed just to try and introduce them.
I do believe tribal natural resource management in many case is a notch above WDFW, but that is not a reason to bring them to the table.  We need to fix our own stupid.  Maybe if actual tribal land was influenced by a policy, bring them in to the conversation, but of course some tribes think they own it all.  Tribes will always have their own best interest, and they should, hence is why they need to manage their own land, not the rest.      

[HntnFsh]

Maybe try hunting when the nez poachers are out and about and you will see who is uninformec

  I think Tbar may be way off

I would bet that Tbar  is  better informed on Wildlife Management and wildlife issues than most folks on this forum. 

 

I dont always agree with him, but I bet your right!

[hunter399]

Double edged sword ⚔️
My first post.....lol.

It's like everyone wants a piece of the pie.
Yet the pie has been sitting in the trash .
😂

It's not in the dumpster yet,but getting there.lol😂