Proposed excise tax on ammunition and firearms…again!!

[Special T]

Buy your ammo in lots of 100 or 1000 and fear no more. Sheeesh.

If the democrats keep at it buying bulk ammo online will be illegal, we’ll be paying hirer prices(11percent to start with) and you’ll be required to pass a mandatory class to have a “permit” to purchase your firearms. Sheesh  all thanks to Liz berry a Seattle lib fighting destroy our 2A rights.

CA already nixxed online ammo purchases (to your door).  Gotta ship to FFL and a background check on each purchase.  $1 and quick if you're in the system (purchased firearm in last 5 years), but not so much if you're not. Same check/costs if you just go to your LGS to buy a box.  Some friendly FFL's (not gun shops) will do the transfer for a small sum. 

The regular shooters have found ways to limit the pain, but still a pain.   The occasional shooters are more greatly affected.

I have a friend that moved to N California. It does not work nearly as easily as you state.

This disproportionately affects the lower middle class gun owners whom might not have the cash to buy in bulk once online purchases are eliminated.

I'd be interested in your rebuttal, but you don't offer one.  I lived through it, so am pretty up to speed.  Maybe your friend is still learning the ropes.

Not sure what kind of rebuttal is needed other than excess cost.  If you need a extra box it costs. If you are "new" to the state it is more hassle.  I buy amount in bulk which could put you on a list especiallial in Komifornia, coming to this state soon.

If we want to grow sportsmen in this state adding extra burdens to. Using a box or 2 of shells won't help.

Now will increased regulations by doo gooders help me by reducing competition? Sure. Does following Californication destruction of rights help? No. I am a Washingtonian several generation and I resent the Californication of this state as does many others from other states. Ideology from that state is a cancer and should be resisted at aĺl costs.

[Fidelk]

Are you upset cause I said Democrat? The OP's article literally called out Democrats. Many others have called out the Democrats in this thread due to their direct responsibility. But good response for not adding anything of substance and being the meme Call out something I said that was incorrect. That would be substantive.

I could care less what you say or think. Are you thinking that you have anything intelligent to add to this conversation, because that isn't particularly evident? And I'm not going to help you compose a post given your hostile attitude.....you are on your own.

[Kola16]

Cool story bro.

[MADMAX]

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[Fidelk]

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Never drink without eating and always drink when eating. Exception made for breakfast.

[Platensek-po]

I dond it amusing that the last person to ban a gun componentes vía executive order just got reelected by the 2a party. Not mention we have a 5 day waiting period on hand tuba thanks to republicans. Anyone who blindly follows either party is a literal tool. Dems want your guns, repubs want your land, neither cares about the average american.

[chukardogs]

OMFG!?! Is there anyone on this site that puts any subject, above or ahead of hunting, guns, ammo and such when it comes to their voting. Maybe the deficit, the economy, a woman's right to choose, the environment, a candidates moral character, etc, etc.... Anything? Anyone?
 How many here have kids who's futures may hold a slightly higher position on the voting importance gauge than something you do for recreation? How many here actually believe that our 2nd amendment is in peril in say, the next 20 years? How many believe, if the environment keeps deteriorating at the same rate as it has over the last 50 years, the price of ammo may not be big on the list of top concerns in the next 30 years? How many don't want dictators around the world to have an ally in the US? How many think giving massive tax breaks to the top one % isn't the way to spread the wealth of this country across the populous? How many abhore the idea of religion having any influence on how people are governed in this country?
 Anyone that clicked yes to any of those questions may not have voted as you did. Grow the hell up and get over it.
 I'd love to say that in the last 10 to 15 years, I was able to find one candidate that represented my beliefs. Since John McCain, not one candidate even came close to fulfilling all of my requirements and/or my idea of a moral aptitude to hold office. Not one! This lack of credible candidates has left me grasping for reasons to vote.
 This "hunting" site has people of all colors, religious backgrounds, political affiliations, genders and so on. Are there people on this site that are so full of themselves, they believe, how they vote is how every person on this site is supposed to vote? Seriously! Get over yourselves! Maybe, just maybe, there's people that visit this site that don't think like you about anything but maybe hunting.

[MADMAX]

So your posting political rhetoric on a subject about ammo
Gotcha

[Not selected]

OMFG!?! Is there anyone on this site that puts any subject, above or ahead of hunting, guns, ammo and such when it comes to their voting. Maybe the deficit, the economy, a woman's right to choose, the environment, a candidates moral character, etc, etc.... Anything? Anyone?
 How many here have kids who's futures may hold a slightly higher position on the voting importance gauge than something you do for recreation? How many here actually believe that our 2nd amendment is in peril in say, the next 20 years? How many believe, if the environment keeps deteriorating at the same rate as it has over the last 50 years, the price of ammo may not be big on the list of top concerns in the next 30 years? How many don't want dictators around the world to have an ally in the US? How many think giving massive tax breaks to the top one % isn't the way to spread the wealth of this country across the populous? How many abhore the idea of religion having any influence on how people are governed in this country?
 Anyone that clicked yes to any of those questions may not have voted as you did. Grow the hell up and get over it.
 I'd love to say that in the last 10 to 15 years, I was able to find one candidate that represented my beliefs. Since John McCain, not one candidate even came close to fulfilling all of my requirements and/or my idea of a moral aptitude to hold office. Not one! This lack of credible candidates has left me grasping for reasons to vote.
 This "hunting" site has people of all colors, religious backgrounds, political affiliations, genders and so on. Are there people on this site that are so full of themselves, they believe, how they vote is how every person on this site is supposed to vote? Seriously! Get over yourselves! Maybe, just maybe, there's people that visit this site that don't think like you about anything but maybe hunting.

You should turn off cnn. 

[EnglishSetter]

Buy your ammo in lots of 100 or 1000 and fear no more. Sheeesh.

If the democrats keep at it buying bulk ammo online will be illegal, we’ll be paying hirer prices(11percent to start with) and you’ll be required to pass a mandatory class to have a “permit” to purchase your firearms. Sheesh  all thanks to Liz berry a Seattle lib fighting destroy our 2A rights.

CA already nixxed online ammo purchases (to your door).  Gotta ship to FFL and a background check on each purchase.  $1 and quick if you're in the system (purchased firearm in last 5 years), but not so much if you're not. Same check/costs if you just go to your LGS to buy a box.  Some friendly FFL's (not gun shops) will do the transfer for a small sum. 

The regular shooters have found ways to limit the pain, but still a pain.   The occasional shooters are more greatly affected.

I have a friend that moved to N California. It does not work nearly as easily as you state.

This disproportionately affects the lower middle class gun owners whom might not have the cash to buy in bulk once online purchases are eliminated.

I'd be interested in your rebuttal, but you don't offer one.  I lived through it, so am pretty up to speed.  Maybe your friend is still learning the ropes.

Not sure what kind of rebuttal is needed other than excess cost.  If you need a extra box it costs. If you are "new" to the state it is more hassle.  I buy amount in bulk which could put you on a list especiallial in Komifornia, coming to this state soon.

If we want to grow sportsmen in this state adding extra burdens to. Using a box or 2 of shells won't help.

Now will increased regulations by doo gooders help me by reducing competition? Sure. Does following Californication destruction of rights help? No. I am a Washingtonian several generation and I resent the Californication of this state as does many others from other states. Ideology from that state is a cancer and should be resisted at aĺl costs.

Amigo.  I just said that purchasing ammo in CA is not particularly difficult albeit no direct online sales/mail order.   You suggest that it is.   Avid shooters can obtain the paperwork to ship directly.  Friendly FFL's will accept shipment for a small fee.  Yes there's a new (as of last summer) 11% tax (being faught).  Yes there's a background check at each purchase, but it's "instant" and costs $1 (be it a box or a case).  List?  hell, we're all on lists by now.

Everything I stated is fact.  What are you finding to be less than factual?

I'd be curious what difficulties your buddy is having and may be able to offer solutions that aren't on the .gov webpage.

[elkslayer069]

  Mods must be busy with Xmas

[Dan-o]

Mods must be busy with Xmas

I've been following along, and hoping the topic wouldn't need to be moved to the politics board.

Merry Christmas.

[fishngamereaper]

Here's another cool proposed bill from the Dems....
It's not going to end guys....

https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1132&Year=2025

[trophyhunt]

Are you upset cause I said Democrat? The OP's article literally called out Democrats. Many others have called out the Democrats in this thread due to their direct responsibility. But good response for not adding anything of substance and being the meme Call out something I said that was incorrect. That would be substantive.

100%.  Love that meme too, the dems can NEVER own up to their idiocy.

[MADMAX]

Time to voice your opinion
Thanks reaper
Easy link to use