collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Resign?  (Read 13378 times)

Offline jeffro

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 901
  • Location: Camano Island
Re: Resign?
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2025, 10:33:31 PM »
Didn’t read all replies
Illegal mean illegals
Deported is minimum
One shot. One kill!

Offline EnglishSetter

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Nov 2024
  • Posts: 234
  • Location: Winlock
  • Groups: NRA
Re: Resign?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2025, 12:46:46 AM »
5-10% haircut is a good start.  Until it's MY sacred cow, right?

Aren't these agencies already funded?


Offline Russ McDonald

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 8187
  • Location: Enumclaw
  • USN ET3 SW 87-92, USS Excel MSO 439
  • Groups: NWTF, NRA
Re: Resign?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2025, 03:49:00 AM »
Agencies are not fully funded because a budget has yet to be passed.  The government is operating of a continuing resolution which is using last year numbers.  Oh someone said something about seasonal that got axed before the fiscal year started in Sept.  No season most likely for the next 2 years with fire being exempt.  Yes that email was a joke.  I ran it up my chain because I thought it was not legit.  It also ties in returning back to the office.  I am eligible for early retirement in June which the email states if you do what they are calling a differed resignation they will  pay you full benefits and pay till the end of the fiscal year.  It says if you eligible in that time you can take your retirement.  To me to much legal traps in this whole thing.  They are hoping to reduce the federal work force by 5-10% with this move.  Funny that someone mentioned Elon doing this with Twitter.  He was at OPM head quarters the day before or the day of when this email was sent.  @Naches Sportsman didn't know about the social media but was told no more all call meeting unless it is operational or project related.

Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

Russell McDonald
President South Sound NWTF Chapter

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 25024
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Make it Rain!
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Re: Resign?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2025, 07:38:57 AM »
Reorganization and cutting dead wei g ht is going to be worrisome. Painful for some and a nuisance for others.  I belive we are past the point of turning everything around with out some shared pain. Embrace the suck.
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

Online trophyhunt

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2008
  • Posts: 19456
  • Location: Wetside
  • Groups: Wa Wild Sheep Life Member
Re: Resign?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2025, 07:43:54 AM »
Reorganization and cutting dead wei g ht is going to be worrisome. Painful for some and a nuisance for others.  I belive we are past the point of turning everything around with out some shared pain. Embrace the suck.
:yeah: 
“In common with”..... not so much!!

Offline Farmer72

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jan 2021
  • Posts: 496
  • Location: Port Orchard, WA
Re: Resign?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2025, 07:50:48 AM »
Submitted and was approved for my DoD CIV SVE retirement (NOV last year) for the end of May this year, 20 years active Army and 21 years CIV SVC is enough. That said “we all” received the memo about early resignation.

Interesting my old POCs from DoD did not receive this resignation. At least no yesterday evening. But, I do remember it taking some time to get through those email walls.

I got my email late yesterday so I say it this morning. I know a couple people that are thinking of taking it. Mainly because they are tired of stuff and just want to get out.

Just so you know, DoD is exempt from the offer. There is an FAQ page on OPM and lists the exempted agency. See you are local to PO so guessing you might be DOD.
I am DoD but the FAQ I got this morning doesn't say DoD is excluded. National security. I haven't seen anything showing who is considered national security yet. It doesn't really matter to me as I am not taking it. DoD is exempt from the current hiring freeze though.

Offline Russ McDonald

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 8187
  • Location: Enumclaw
  • USN ET3 SW 87-92, USS Excel MSO 439
  • Groups: NWTF, NRA
Re: Resign?
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2025, 07:57:48 AM »
I don't want to tie up the OP post because we are getting off track from the original subject.  All I have to say is if I make it 3 years 11 months I will never work for the government again.

Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

Russell McDonald
President South Sound NWTF Chapter

Offline Macs B

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Hunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 131
  • Location: Centralia WA
Re: Resign?
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2025, 08:00:50 AM »
Here is a copy of the official email.   

Official guidance so far has been that this action is aimed at remote/teleworkers who choose not to return to the office.  Rather than force them out and deal with unions and administrative resistance a severance package has been offered.  By voluntarily choosing to resign employees who may not have been retirement eligible were given an alternative and a transition period. 


During the first week of his administration, President Trump issued a number of directives concerning the federal workforce. Among those directives, the President required that employees return to in-person work, restored accountability for employees who have policy-making authority, restored accountability for senior career executives, and reformed the federal hiring process to focus on merit. As a result of the above orders, the reform of the federal workforce will be significant.

The reformed federal workforce will be built around four pillars:
1)    Return to Office: The substantial majority of federal employees who have been working remotely since Covid will be required to return to their physical offices five days a week. Going forward, we also expect our physical offices to undergo meaningful consolidation and divestitures, potentially resulting in physical office relocations for a number of federal workers.
2)    Performance culture: The federal workforce should be comprised of the best America has to offer. We will insist on excellence at every level — our performance standards will be updated to reward and promote those that exceed expectations and address in a fair and open way those who do not meet the high standards which the taxpayers of this country have a right to demand.
3)    More streamlined and flexible workforce: While a few agencies and even branches of the military are likely to see increases in the size of their workforce, the majority of federal agencies are likely to be downsized through restructurings, realignments, and reductions in force. These actions are likely to include the use of furloughs and the reclassification to at-will status for a substantial number of federal employees.
4)    Enhanced standards of conduct: The federal workforce should be comprised of employees who are reliable, loyal, trustworthy, and who strive for excellence in their daily work. Employees will be subject to enhanced standards of suitability and conduct as we move forward. Employees who engage in unlawful behavior or other misconduct will be prioritized for appropriate investigation and discipline, including termination.

Each of the pillars outlined above will be pursued in accordance with applicable law, consistent with your agency's policies, and to the extent permitted under relevant collective-bargaining agreements.

If you choose to remain in your current position, we thank you for your renewed focus on serving the American people to the best of your abilities and look forward to working together as part of an improved federal workforce. At this time, we cannot give you full assurance regarding the certainty of your position or agency but should your position be eliminated you will be treated with dignity and will be afforded the protections in place for such positions.

If you choose not to continue in your current role in the federal workforce, we thank you for your service to your country and you will be provided with a dignified, fair departure from the federal government utilizing a deferred resignation program. This program begins effective January 28 and is available to all federal employees until February 6. If you resign under this program, you will retain all pay and benefits regardless of your daily workload and will be exempted from all applicable in-person work requirements until September 30, 2025 (or earlier if you choose to accelerate your resignation for any reason). The details of this separation plan can be found below.

Whichever path you choose, we thank you for your service to The United States of America.
*********************************************************************

Upon review of the below deferred resignation letter, if you wish to resign:
1)    Select “Reply” to this email. You must reply from your government account. A reply from an account other than your government account will not be accepted.
2)    Type the word “Resign” into the body of this reply email. Hit “Send”.


THE LAST DAY TO ACCEPT THE DEFERRED RESIGNATION PROGRAM IS FEBRUARY 6, 2025.

Deferred resignation is available to all full-time federal employees except for military personnel of the armed forces, employees of the U.S. Postal Service, those in positions related to immigration enforcement and national security, and those in any other positions specifically excluded by your employing agency.
DEFERRED RESIGNATION LETTER
January 28, 2025
Please accept this letter as my formal resignation from employment with my employing agency, effective September 30, 2025. I understand that I have the right to accelerate, but not extend, my resignation date if I wish to take advantage of the deferred resignation program. I also understand that if I am (or become) eligible for early or normal retirement before my resignation date, that I retain the right to elect early or normal retirement (once eligible) at any point prior to my resignation date.
Given my impending resignation, I understand I will be exempt from any “Return to Office” requirements pursuant to recent directives and that I will maintain my current compensation and retain all existing benefits (including but not limited to retirement accruals) until my final resignation date.
I am certain of my decision to resign and my choice to resign is fully voluntary. I understand my employing agency will likely make adjustments in response to my resignation including moving, eliminating, consolidating, reassigning my position and tasks, reducing my official duties, and/or placing me on paid administrative leave until my resignation date.
I am committed to ensuring a smooth transition during my remaining time at my employing agency. Accordingly, I will assist my employing agency with completing reasonable and customary tasks and processes to facilitate my departure.
I understand that my acceptance of this offer will be sent to the Office of Personnel Management (“OPM”) which will then share it with my agency employer. I hereby consent to OPM receiving, reviewing, and forwarding my acceptance.
*********************************************************************
Upon submission of your resignation, you will receive a confirmation email acknowledging receipt of your email. Any replies to this email shall be for the exclusive use of accepting the deferred resignation letter. Any other replies to this email will not be reviewed, forwarded, or retained other than as required by applicable federal records laws.
Once your resignation is validly sent and received, the human resources department of your employing agency will contact you to complete additional documentation, if any.
OPM is authorized to send this email under Executive Order 9830 and 5 U.S.C. §§ 301, 1103, 1104, 2951, 3301, 6504, 8347, and 8461. OPM intends to use your response to assist in federal workforce reorganization efforts in conjunction with employing agencies. See 88 Fed. Reg. 56058; 80 Fed. Reg. 72455 (listing routine uses). Response to this email is voluntary. Although you must respond to take advantage of the deferred resignation offer, there is no penalty for nonresponse.
I usually delete my posts after two days.

I've never claimed to be a house painter or a mechanic...it always amazes me how many people want to claim to be a lawyer.

Offline timberfaller

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2014
  • Posts: 4053
  • Location: East Wenatchee
Re: Resign?
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2025, 09:23:39 AM »
The Federal government has been bloated for decades.  Buy outs are nothing new, my wife was hope-ing one would show up when she able to retire.  She watched numerous co-workers receive them over the many years she was employed.  Six months short, oh well!!

Government = To many Chiefs not enough Indian's!! If it requires one to break a sweat, I won't do it mentality!!

The last couple of years she worked, almost broke her down.  Had to deal with people who didn't know how to mail a letter, bend over for all the weird Alphabet group, chauvinistic co-workers(aka; wuss'es) and various eco-freak groups.  She is so much happier now!!
The only good tree, is a stump!

Online trophyhunt

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2008
  • Posts: 19456
  • Location: Wetside
  • Groups: Wa Wild Sheep Life Member
Re: Resign?
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2025, 09:28:21 AM »
Saw an earlier post on page one that tried to make Trump look bad, that email looks pretty dang reasonable to me. 
“In common with”..... not so much!!

Offline ganghis

  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Sep 2016
  • Posts: 451
  • Location: Tacoma
Re: Resign?
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2025, 03:14:02 PM »
If they wanted to do targeted cuts, that would be one thing, but the way Elon is going about this is really dumb.  I mean, what if half of the FAAs air traffic controllers hit "resign"?  They also don't have the legal authority to do these buyouts so it's not even clear the people who accept the offer will keep getting paid.  I guess that's par for the course though - the promised compensation didn't happen when they did this at Twitter. 

Offline Stein

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 12861
  • Location: Arlington
Re: Resign?
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2025, 03:28:00 PM »
Targeted cuts would take a while, this was quick and dirty.  They may also run into contract problems with cuts where a resignation won't run into issues.

Offline MADMAX

  • Trade Count: (+21)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: May 2007
  • Posts: 9092
  • Location: Kitsap
  • I like big bucks and I can not lie
Re: Resign?
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2025, 04:01:21 PM »
During my days working for the department of defense, they did targeted buyouts pretty much the same thing the way I’m reading it ,
will give you money if you quit
Nothing new most of those guys end up coming back as contractors with the lure of 25K at the time they did it at my facility made a lot of people that had 10 years to go to retirement take the money and run.
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Mark Twain


I Ain't Captain Walker.
I'm The Guy Who Carries Mr. Dead In His Pocket


What would life be without the thrill of the hunt ?

Offline Fidelk

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jul 2016
  • Posts: 5773
  • Location: Sequim, WA
  • Groups: NRA, JCSA
Re: Resign?
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2025, 04:13:28 PM »
Shouldn't a "buyout" involve a person being offered a specific amount of money to go away? This is just some kind of weirdness.....click here and you don't have to show up but will get paid through September 2025. They are also trying to terminate working from home......sounds like a hybrid, maybe they are trolling the worker bees.

Offline MADMAX

  • Trade Count: (+21)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: May 2007
  • Posts: 9092
  • Location: Kitsap
  • I like big bucks and I can not lie
Re: Resign?
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2025, 04:23:19 PM »
Shouldn't a "buyout" involve a person being offered a specific amount of money to go away? This is just some kind of weirdness.....click here and you don't have to show up but will get paid through September 2025. They are also trying to terminate working from home......sounds like a hybrid, maybe they are trolling the worker bees.

9 months pay to stay home ?
Agree that’s a weird way to do it
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Mark Twain


I Ain't Captain Walker.
I'm The Guy Who Carries Mr. Dead In His Pocket


What would life be without the thrill of the hunt ?

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Pack Llamas vs Pack Goats by 300rum
[Today at 10:13:11 AM]


High Buck Tripod Selection by Mtnwalker
[Today at 10:05:08 AM]


Razor Clams by 3boys
[Today at 10:02:41 AM]


The oldest retailer in North America is closing by Trapper John
[Today at 09:58:05 AM]


375 by timberfaller
[Today at 09:47:40 AM]


Ground blind for blacktail by dilleytech
[Today at 09:13:13 AM]


Public comment periods open for Washington hunting season, wildlife feeding prop by baldopepper
[Today at 09:11:18 AM]


Lt. Murray by teanawayslayer
[Today at 08:39:07 AM]


Chelan Mountain Goat Survey by B4noon
[Today at 08:37:06 AM]


top 3 GMU'S by yakimanoob
[Today at 08:09:57 AM]


2024 Elk Success Thread by Hunting Cowboy
[Today at 08:04:29 AM]


Mexico by bearhunter99
[Today at 08:02:15 AM]


M1 garand info needed by hookr88
[Today at 07:36:46 AM]


Practicing for turkey by Threewolves
[Today at 07:25:13 AM]


4 Columbia refuges? by nwwanderer
[Today at 07:25:05 AM]


Krag-Jergensen springfield armory rifles 1898s? by birddogdad
[Today at 07:05:09 AM]


Riding lawn mower mobile mechanic Arlington ? by Jpmiller
[Today at 06:29:27 AM]


Best GMU to draw by kodiak06
[Today at 06:21:37 AM]


2025 Big Game Rules are out! by jstone
[Yesterday at 08:52:09 PM]


Brittany breeders by Wingin it
[Yesterday at 08:36:00 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal