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WDFW Landowner Tags
« on: March 03, 2025, 10:25:35 PM »
Yesterday I was watching YouTube and was shocked to see that Ultimate Reloader published a video surrounding 'damage' tags in Washington. Video link
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I will preface for saying that I do like Guy, Gavin, and the Ultimate Reloader crew. They are based out of the Cashmere area. From what I understand, and what I experience hunting the surrounding area, is that the herds are doing badly. So what is WDFW doing giving out damage tags to kill does on their winter range?

Does anyone have info on how many damage/landowner tags WDFW allocates in this area, or for the state in general. I would be interested in learning how this compares to the tags allocated to the general public. The only doe tags I see in 250 and 251 are like 20 draw tags for youth and senior citizens.


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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2025, 11:49:28 AM »
Seems they're killing does on private property damaging crops, nothing new. The amount of tags given to regular hunters has no bearing on the damage tags. Says the place is fenced, next option is hunt tags which is what they're doing.
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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2025, 12:41:33 PM »
Yesterday I was watching YouTube and was shocked to see that Ultimate Reloader published a video surrounding 'damage' tags in Washington. Video link
.

I will preface for saying that I do like Guy, Gavin, and the Ultimate Reloader crew. They are based out of the Cashmere area. From what I understand, and what I experience hunting the surrounding area, is that the herds are doing badly. So what is WDFW doing giving out damage tags to kill does on their winter range?

Does anyone have info on how many damage/landowner tags WDFW allocates in this area, or for the state in general. I would be interested in learning how this compares to the tags allocated to the general public. The only doe tags I see in 250 and 251 are like 20 draw tags for youth and senior citizens.

My understanding is it’s all done regionally. One would assume the bio tracks tags issued vs tags filled. I have never seen a “list” that shows a region or all regions combined to get a total.

In your listed question/example there would be more then 20 damage tags in those GMUs.

Confirmed landowner example: 7 tags for as long as can remember. Email bio if/when filled.

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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2025, 02:32:22 PM »
Fix the fence instead of killing the does? That’s not good YouTube content though…

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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2025, 11:22:48 AM »
It'd be nice if the state published, at the very least, the info on how many damage tags were allocated and filled in each GMU. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good look for them.

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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2025, 06:48:06 PM »
It'd be nice if the state published, at the very least, the info on how many damage tags were allocated and filled in each GMU. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good look for them.
They wont. We all would be shocked and appalled if we found out. Way more animals killed this way than most people/hunters could even comprehend. One of the biggest scams out there. Tons of opportunity for fraud. We need to get Elon involved!  Most of the people on this forum that support this are dipping into the spoils with the system. I had a friend that had an orchard outside of Walla Walla and the amount of tags and the amount of deer that were killed was sick and he just owned a small orchard.
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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2025, 09:04:05 PM »
 :yeah:
It'd be nice if the state published, at the very least, the info on how many damage tags were allocated and filled in each GMU. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good look for them.
They wont. We all would be shocked and appalled if we found out. Way more animals killed this way than most people/hunters could even comprehend. One of the biggest scams out there. Tons of opportunity for fraud. We need to get Elon involved!  Most of the people on this forum that support this are dipping into the spoils with the system. I had a friend that had an orchard outside of Walla Walla and the amount of tags and the amount of deer that were killed was sick and he just owned a small orchard.

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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2025, 01:03:45 PM »

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 Most of the people on this forum that support this are dipping into the spoils with the system.
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LMAO... Works TWO ways. Most against it really have no idea what goes on to try and prevent the damage nor do they have to pay for or complete the repairs for loses caused by animals.
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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2025, 12:54:04 PM »
It'd be nice if the state published, at the very least, the info on how many damage tags were allocated and filled in each GMU. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good look for them.
They wont. We all would be shocked and appalled if we found out. Way more animals killed this way than most people/hunters could even comprehend. One of the biggest scams out there. Tons of opportunity for fraud. We need to get Elon involved!  Most of the people on this forum that support this are dipping into the spoils with the system. I had a friend that had an orchard outside of Walla Walla and the amount of tags and the amount of deer that were killed was sick and he just owned a small orchard.

I think there is another thread on this but I agree with dvolmer. Have had numerous landowners lower their tone and get a sly grin when talking about how they get to use these to "protect their crops". Let the cows eat the crops until the bull shows up and then just shoot him type of stuff.

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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2025, 08:47:46 AM »
Y cant change the past, but going forward their needs to be a rule/code amendment that stating for orchard's the cost of wildlife damage is on the owner no more tags.  If your business model will not support adequate fencing so be it.

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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2025, 08:51:58 AM »
It'd be nice if the state published, at the very least, the info on how many damage tags were allocated and filled in each GMU. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good look for them.
They wont. We all would be shocked and appalled if we found out. Way more animals killed this way than most people/hunters could even comprehend. One of the biggest scams out there. Tons of opportunity for fraud. We need to get Elon involved!  Most of the people on this forum that support this are dipping into the spoils with the system. I had a friend that had an orchard outside of Walla Walla and the amount of tags and the amount of deer that were killed was sick and he just owned a small orchard.

I think there is another thread on this but I agree with dvolmer. Have had numerous landowners lower their tone and get a sly grin when talking about how they get to use these to "protect their crops". Let the cows eat the crops until the bull shows up and then just shoot him type of stuff.

I agree that depredation tags can have a negative impact, but I thought most depredation tags are antlerless only?
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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2025, 09:12:16 AM »
It'd be nice if the state published, at the very least, the info on how many damage tags were allocated and filled in each GMU. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good look for them.
They wont. We all would be shocked and appalled if we found out. Way more animals killed this way than most people/hunters could even comprehend. One of the biggest scams out there. Tons of opportunity for fraud. We need to get Elon involved!  Most of the people on this forum that support this are dipping into the spoils with the system. I had a friend that had an orchard outside of Walla Walla and the amount of tags and the amount of deer that were killed was sick and he just owned a small orchard.

I think there is another thread on this but I agree with dvolmer. Have had numerous landowners lower their tone and get a sly grin when talking about how they get to use these to "protect their crops". Let the cows eat the crops until the bull shows up and then just shoot him type of stuff.

I agree that depredation tags can have a negative impact, but I thought most depredation tags are antlerless only?
Most are but not all.

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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2025, 10:01:46 AM »
It'd be nice if the state published, at the very least, the info on how many damage tags were allocated and filled in each GMU. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good look for them.
They wont. We all would be shocked and appalled if we found out. Way more animals killed this way than most people/hunters could even comprehend. One of the biggest scams out there. Tons of opportunity for fraud. We need to get Elon involved!  Most of the people on this forum that support this are dipping into the spoils with the system. I had a friend that had an orchard outside of Walla Walla and the amount of tags and the amount of deer that were killed was sick and he just owned a small orchard.

I think there is another thread on this but I agree with dvolmer. Have had numerous landowners lower their tone and get a sly grin when talking about how they get to use these to "protect their crops". Let the cows eat the crops until the bull shows up and then just shoot him type of stuff.

I agree that depredation tags can have a negative impact, but I thought most depredation tags are antlerless only?

A guy I knew in Sunnyside claimed to get buck tags and another in I think Grant County got a bull tag. Not sure though, if they weren't buck/bull tags then its even worse!!   :chuckle:

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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2025, 03:28:03 PM »
It'd be nice if the state published, at the very least, the info on how many damage tags were allocated and filled in each GMU. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good look for them.
They wont. We all would be shocked and appalled if we found out. Way more animals killed this way than most people/hunters could even comprehend. One of the biggest scams out there. Tons of opportunity for fraud. We need to get Elon involved!  Most of the people on this forum that support this are dipping into the spoils with the system. I had a friend that had an orchard outside of Walla Walla and the amount of tags and the amount of deer that were killed was sick and he just owned a small orchard.

I think there is another thread on this but I agree with dvolmer. Have had numerous landowners lower their tone and get a sly grin when talking about how they get to use these to "protect their crops". Let the cows eat the crops until the bull shows up and then just shoot him type of stuff.

I agree that depredation tags can have a negative impact, but I thought most depredation tags are antlerless only?

If it's like Oregon, they are antlerless. Landowners can get LOP tags for antlered animals though
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Re: WDFW Landowner Tags
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2025, 03:53:35 PM »
It'd be nice if the state published, at the very least, the info on how many damage tags were allocated and filled in each GMU. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good look for them.
They wont. We all would be shocked and appalled if we found out. Way more animals killed this way than most people/hunters could even comprehend. One of the biggest scams out there. Tons of opportunity for fraud. We need to get Elon involved!  Most of the people on this forum that support this are dipping into the spoils with the system. I had a friend that had an orchard outside of Walla Walla and the amount of tags and the amount of deer that were killed was sick and he just owned a small orchard.

I think there is another thread on this but I agree with dvolmer. Have had numerous landowners lower their tone and get a sly grin when talking about how they get to use these to "protect their crops". Let the cows eat the crops until the bull shows up and then just shoot him type of stuff.

I agree that depredation tags can have a negative impact, but I thought most depredation tags are antlerless only?

If it's like Oregon, they are antlerless. Landowners can get LOP tags for antlered animals though

I'm familiar with a couple different types of landowner depredation tags.
They have all been antlerless only.
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