Oh No!

[SkookumHntr]

Reading a article in Northwest Sportsman about the change in are special permits application process sounds real bad! I was hoping that WDFW would be limiting hunt choices, from 4 to 2 or even better 1. The Article says they may try to up it to 8. Maybe I read this wrong but I see no help in draw odds coming and it looks worse to me

[WDFW-SUX]

come on your kidding right?

[SkookumHntr]

It says something like you will be able to draw both Bull and cow and Buck and doe hunts instead of making you pick and just talks about wdfw creating more money for themselves, not helping draw odds one bit! I hope I'm missunderstanding this, but it sounds real Bad!

[WDFW-SUX]

Thats awful "if" its true...we had a simmular rumor a few days back.  Now im starting to worry...S**T.

I can totally see them separating out the antlered draw from the antlerless draw....the odds on the antlered stuff will skyrocket....ugh

All for the almighty dollar..someone needs to pimp slap them for stealing our money.

[boneaddict]

WTF!     Would be good to substantiate this or disprove it so we had time to SCREAM bloody murder.

[SkookumHntr]

I just left a message with Dave Ware to see if he can give me the skinny on what there proposing. I doubt he calls me back but I hope he does.

[boneaddict]

Better be changes to 1 or 2 choices. NOT 8

[grousetracker]

i remember in the 80's the wdfw would allow you to buy an early archery tag,hunt the season, pay $15.50 for a modern tag, if unsuccessfull you could buy a late archery tag for $15.50 more. thats 46.50 for just your deer or elk tags. now include $6.00-$10.00 for special permits. i see this going the same way. just spoke to my brother and he told me a non-res deer tag in georgia was 26.95 for 12 deer. 4 bucks 8 does.

[Viszla]

This surprises you?  WDFW manages MONEY, not game anymore.  I hope this doesn't happen but I'm sure it will.  Just think of the revenue this would create.

[Ridgerunner]

I'd like to see the article.  When I talked to DAve last month it sounded like buck and bull quality hunts would be limited to 2 choices, antlerless would remain at 4 as well as OIL.  He did say the anterless drawing would be seperated from the quality buck/bull drawings so a guy could put in for both, but it would cost him twice, $5 per application. 

Bag limit would remain one but if a person drew an antlerless as well as a buck/bull tag they could decide what one to use to fill their limit of 1. 

[boneaddict]

Don't mind the first part of what you said, though I'd love to see OIL go that route or more.  BUT.....not seperate for doe or buck.  That would again make draw odds worse because folks would be able to try for it what the heck.  If you choose between the two then if you go antlerless becasue you want the meat, then you are out of the big game pools (better draw odds).  Essentially what you are describing could be interpreted as 8 choices IF they kept it 4 each.

[SkookumHntr]

I'd like to see the article.  When I talked to DAve last month it sounded like buck and bull quality hunts would be limited to 2 choices, antlerless would remain at 4 as well as OIL.  He did say the anterless drawing would be seperated from the quality buck/bull drawings so a guy could put in for both, but it would cost him twice, $5 per application. 

Bag limit would remain one but if a person drew an antlerless as well as a buck/bull tag they could decide what one to use to fill their limit of 1. 

Its in that sportsmans magazine that is by the cycle traders and stuff. Page 58

[villageidiot]

In 10 yrs. the wolf population will have exploded and part of the plans to manage them to prevent livestock loss is remove hunting that kills the wolves food source.  With that in mind all those points we have built up will go down the sewer.  The one pack in the Methow Valley has exploded into multiple singles, doubles and one good sized pack.  At this rate all those doubles will have a litter of pups next year and the Methow should have at least 4 packs in one year.   They don't recognize it as being a pack until they have pups.  So the singles, doubles and triples aren't counted.  It appears that it's time to start looking to other states to go hunting.  With the money spent on gambling on getting drawed over the years we could of saved enough money to go on a guided big bull elk guaranteed kill.  I saw on the hunting channel you can go to Africa and kill a whole pile of animals for 6,000 and thats a guided hunt with lodging and food.  A lot of us spend a thousand dollars on chaseing a cow elk around and usually don't get one, and too you gotta get drawn to get one.   I've convinced myself and I'm going to another state.  I've had it here.

[winshooter88]

Tag pools

Buck and doe tags will be split up into different pools and so will bulls and cows. Possibly trophy bucks and bulls, but i don't remember for sure. No one will lose any of their existing deer or elk points as you get credit for all your points for deer on all the permit applications that you purchase. And for all your elk points on all elk permit applications that you purchase. This was discussed at the last Game Management Advisory Council meeting and will have to be approved by the game commission before going into effect.

Yes it is mostly a money move in my opinion.

[Elkaholic daWg]

 I wont be wasting 14 Pts. on a cow tag.