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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2011, 12:56:26 AM »
I apologies!  Just been in one of those  :sas: moods today.

No problem at all! I think we both know what we would do, protocol be damned. A heart/lung shot will do nicely with issue hollow points. I would be very curious what bullet they are using that so outperforms a 40 hp in 357mag for a head shot, 125gr JSP?
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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2011, 03:51:42 AM »
Just heard that they are allowing game officers to carry 10mm.  I would assume that would be in the Glock but not certain.  That should be the best of both worlds.. in my opinion.  I really like that round. 

Back when I was guiding I switched from the 1911 .45 to the Delta Elite 10mm.  Was very impressed with it even though no situation ever arose to use it in the field after I switched.  Twice previously with the .45 which performed exceptionally well at 6 feet on bear head on.  Both were double taps to the chest.  444 Marlin at 18" did a sweet job too :chuckle:  That was fun once I changed my shorts and began seeing more than bright white.
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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2011, 07:36:16 AM »
Just curious, when fully loaded is the weight that much of a difference between the two?

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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2011, 10:05:28 PM »
Just curious, when fully loaded is the weight that much of a difference between the two?
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The .40 pistol is actually lighter with 15 rounds in it than the 5 inch GP-100 with 6, but not by much.  I have been in the woods all week carrying both and it sucks being in a vehicle with a 5 inch so I took it off for a while when I was driving and have been carrying the .40 since just because of comfortability and concealment. 
To prove to myself it wasn't a bad choice I set up two old archery blocks on their sides and end-to-end (not the way it's designed to be shot at..oh yeah and not with pistols :chuckle:) and the .40 (Double Tap)was only 8 sheets short of the .357 (Buffalo Bore) which left me suprised.  Anyhow I am still in newlywed love with my SR40.  Thing freakin rocks.

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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2011, 08:11:09 AM »
if I were going to deer hunt with one of the two it would be the .357, with Gold dots, one of the few bullets I've tested in it that opens and penetrates enough.. (by the way i thought I was the only one with a 5 inch gp100) the .40 with ball or cast penetrates pretty well, and with 180gr HP its still intended to penetrate 12" or so... remember you're mainly carrying it for an emergency/GETOFFME gun, in which case a lighter weight, easier to carry, always have with you, twice as many bullets in the gun type has a lot going for it.. assuming you shoot the auto well..

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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2011, 06:35:06 PM »
Here's your best answer : Cops carry 40 cal's for a reason, not 357's. That should sum it up very well.
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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2011, 11:01:05 AM »
Here's your best answer : Cops carry 40 cal's for a reason, not 357's. That should sum it up very well.
Only because they can put more lead in the air in the hope of hitting something. Not stopping power
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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2011, 01:15:22 PM »
 :yeah:

More cost effective too.  .40 cal is ok for people. Animals are much tougher. :twocents:

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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2011, 05:02:41 PM »
Here's your best answer : Cops carry 40 cal's for a reason, not 357's. That should sum it up very well.
Only because they can put more lead in the air in the hope of hitting something. Not stopping power

Not true. Read the Hatcher report on stopping power of cartridges. 40 cal is better than a 357.
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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2011, 05:08:00 PM »
:yeah:

More cost effective too.  .40 cal is ok for people. Animals are much tougher. :twocents:

I don't know about the animal idea myself. I know they don't whine and cry like people do when they get shot, survival thing I bet..... :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2011, 05:18:11 PM »
Either one, it really doesn't matter.


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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2011, 05:24:20 PM »
Either one, it really doesn't matter.

That's right. A 22lr will stop someone too, dead in their tracks. :dunno:
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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2011, 05:35:40 PM »
.40 or .357 was the original question.  It really doesn't matter. 

A .357 can be a little overbearing when loaded with magnum rounds.  .40 in a full size semi auto is snappy.  My split times are much quicker with a .40 because of that difference.  Both are accurate depending on the pistol.  Either way differences are minor, buy what you like, you will be well served by either.

Either one, it really doesn't matter.

That's right. A 22lr will stop someone too, dead in their tracks. :dunno:

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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2011, 06:17:11 PM »
Here's your best answer : Cops carry 40 cal's for a reason, not 357's. That should sum it up very well.
Only because they can put more lead in the air in the hope of hitting something. Not stopping power

Not true. Read the Hatcher report on stopping power of cartridges. 40 cal is better than a 357.
Simply not true. but you can believe what you want about the .40 and the .357
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Re: .40 or. 357 for the woods?
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2011, 07:06:14 PM »
To try to help answer the original question, I should also say that the extra weight really doesn't matter all that much to me.  When hiking I do enjoy a 4" revolver, especially in a high ride pancake style holster.  When carrying a semi auto I like a yaqui style holster but the auto rides lower and is less comfortable especially with a pack.

Typically I just throw a couple of speed loaders in the pack if I am carrying the revolver, a couple of extra mags if an auto.

When in snake country I carry a couple of .38 bird shot in a pocket with the revolver, I do like the revolvers for snake country.  With an auto I will carry bird shot down the tube for my first shot with ball/etc. in the magazine.  I know that I have to waste the first shot for anything other than a snake, that is the drawback I suppose.  I have missed on a couple of coyotes doing this though.
 

 


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