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Stuck charge in rifle. Got It Out!!!
« on: October 04, 2012, 05:32:48 AM »
Can't believe I did this.
Doing my final sight in at the range.  While loading my rifle, my buddy had a problem I stopped and I helped him with.  I went back to my rifle and ended up with a double charge in the bore.  Thought, no prob, pulled the breach plug, dropped first charge of powder.  I cannot get the 2 slugs and middle charge to move.

At home, I used a long drill bit to put a 3/16 hole through the breach slug to remove powder in between the slugs.  Still won't move

Knight bighorn, 777 powder (not pellets), hornaday SST 300 gr sabot (copper slug w, plastic tip)

Suggestions before I do something wrong?
« Last Edit: October 04, 2012, 07:56:08 PM by usmc74 »

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Re: Stuck charge in rifle
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2012, 05:35:56 AM »
Do a search on the site . I know this has been talked about
Best of luck :tup:

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Re: Stuck charge in rifle
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2012, 06:26:13 AM »
They make a screw on thing that goes on the end of your ramrod to pull bullets out that is how i got mine out one time when i had it stuck just screw it into the bullet and pull it out , also heard of people blowing them out with air

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Re: Stuck charge in rifle
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 06:34:05 AM »
Chuck the barrel in a vise with wood jaw liners; lube it up with a light penetrating oil, lots of lube.  Use a wooden dowel rod from the muzzle end to force the two sabots out the breach.  If that doesn’t budge them use the ball/patch puller (screw on thing that goes on the end of your ramrod) from the breach end to try to pull the bottom sabot out the beach.  Once you get the bottom sabot out the other should move easily.

Lots of lube!!!

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Re: Stuck charge in rifle
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2012, 07:01:58 AM »
CP might have something there.   When you are pounding, really putting it to it, you need lots of lube.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Stuck charge in rifle
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2012, 08:00:06 AM »
Can't believe I did this.
Doing my final sight in at the range.  While loading my rifle, my buddy had a problem I stopped and I helped him with.  I went back to my rifle and ended up with a double charge in the bore.  Thought, no prob, pulled the breach plug, dropped first charge of powder.  I cannot get the 2 slugs and middle charge to move.

At home, I used a long drill bit to put a 3/16 hole through the breach slug to remove powder in between the slugs.  Still won't move

Knight bighorn, 777 powder (not pellets), hornaday SST 300 gr sabot (copper slug w, plastic tip)

Suggestions before I do something wrong?

Since you have tried what you already done... my suggestion would be to remove the barrelled action form the stock, strip the barreled action of the plunger assembly, breech plug, and trigger.   Boil up a large portion of water.... Place the barreled action breech down in the bucket - submerge the breech in the water, even pour some boiling water down the bore. This will kill the powder and provide expansion to the metal.  After a few minutes of heating pour the water out of the barrel and with a Range rod and a loading jag tap the remaining projectiles and powder out the breech... Do not have a range rod - use a wooden dowel...
Keep shooting muzzleloaders - They are a blast!!

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Re: Stuck charge in rifle
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 08:28:37 AM »
OK guy & gals also. :hello:
I have been shooting muzzleloaders for over 50 yrs.
Here is a easy way to get you out of the stuck load problem.
Get a grease zert with the same thread pitch as the nipple.
Screw it in and start pumping grease with a regular grease gun. No problem with charge going off.
Simple and easy. Ya you will have some cleanup to do but it works. :tup:
Point the weapon in a safe direction as the load will pop out with some force.

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Re: Stuck charge in rifle
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2012, 08:41:09 AM »
OK guy & gals also. :hello:
I have been shooting muzzleloaders for over 50 yrs.
Here is a easy way to get you out of the stuck load problem.
Get a grease zert with the same thread pitch as the nipple.
Screw it in and start pumping grease with a regular grease gun. No problem with charge going off.
Simple and easy. Ya you will have some cleanup to do but it works. :tup:
Point the weapon in a safe direction as the load will pop out with some force.

Great plan,  hydraulics.   

I actually had a double charge years ago that I couldn't get out with a puller or dowel.  I ended up drilling it out but the possibility of friction heat scared me since I had a load of pyrodex sanwiched between two bullets.  I ran cold water from a hose down the breech onto the bit and bullet the whole time.  It was a lead bullet so it went fast.

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Re: Stuck charge in rifle
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2012, 09:22:25 AM »
I had already gotten a grease nipple to do this.  Did it like this years ago on a friends side lock years ago.  Just thought it should be easier on an inline.  I think they are wedged together somehow.  Maybe the lower one is expanding slightly?

Yup, a grease gun can pump a few thousand PSI, but the cleanup is something else.

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Re: Stuck charge in rifle. Got It Out!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2012, 07:58:07 PM »
Grease gun got er done.  Took about an hour to clean up.

Shot perfect!

 


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