Sea Sheperd has a rough day in the 9th Circuit Court

[pianoman9701]

Unless an individual country signed a treaty of cooperation, it would be unenforceable. I have no idea who would control whale harvest. Not in the business lately.

It seemed like you were advocating that Japan could harvest what they want where they wanted because the whale population was whole.  You were discussing that as a soveriegn nation, we had no input on that harvest.  Is that similiar to tribal harvest here in Washington?  I guess the Mikahs also are considered a soveriegn nation for if the US had signed that treaty of no whaling, and they violated that treaty then what?

I didn't say we had no input. But, opinions are like butt holes. Our input would be an opinion. There's presently no need for a blanket ban on whaling. I believe that the Japanese would sign onto a treaty which included reasonable harvest goals and conservation of specific whale populations. The ban as it now stands takes into account none of the advances and population increases. I understand completely why they're telling the signers of the ban treaty to fo guck themselves.

[boneaddict]

So, right back to page one....

Interesting enough, eventhough these are ecoterrorists, I understand their anger and their plight.  The japenese are manipulating the sytem to get what they want, and the Sea Sheppard is standing up for what they believe is right to this injustice.     I can almost relate to what we have going on in this state regarding tribal hunting and the helpless feeling we all have with the injustices that go on with it.     ....... and its probably going to take the same type of character to stand up to the crap in order to get public opinion to make it stop.   Crazy huh?

curious of how this juxtapositions itself to wolves and wolf recovery in this state, and how tribal hunting or "unregulated harvest by a soverign nation." that in this case refuses to amend a treaty as it dips into their purse or consumption, and those furious about that. 

[PlateauNDN]

So, right back to page one....

Interesting enough, eventhough these are ecoterrorists, I understand their anger and their plight.  The japenese are manipulating the sytem to get what they want, and the Sea Sheppard is standing up for what they believe is right to this injustice.     I can almost relate to what we have going on in this state regarding tribal hunting and the helpless feeling we all have with the injustices that go on with it.     ....... and its probably going to take the same type of character to stand up to the crap in order to get public opinion to make it stop.   Crazy huh?

curious of how this juxtapositions itself to wolves and wolf recovery in this state, and how tribal hunting or "unregulated harvest by a soverign nation." that in this case refuses to amend a treaty as it dips into their purse or consumption, and those furious about that.

It does go back to square one for your question.  It will take a lot for anything to occur and as you can tell it took a lot for the Japanese to do what?  Nothing.  It will take a lot here to bring the abusers to some form of justice.  Like I said before, if anybody wants the abusers to stop then step forward and put it down on paper and stand behind their word before those that have the power to do something about it, otherwise they're not doing anybody or anything any good.  Talking is one thing, doing something is something completely different.

[boneaddict]

With todays environment is it even worth it?   You know, put your family at risk just because you see someone do something.   Keep your mouth shut and turn your head........    Kind of why I almost admire their convictions eventhough I think they are whackjobs.

[Atroxus]

With todays environment is it even worth it?   You know, put your family at risk just because you see someone do something.   Keep your mouth shut and turn your head........    Kind of why I almost admire their convictions eventhough I think they are whackjobs.

I would admire their convictions if they went about things in a responsible, ethical and legal manner. As is I can't get past seeing them as not just whackjobs, but dangerous whackjobs. They really need to be arrested or at the very least be forced to pay for any damages they have caused with their antics.

[PlateauNDN]

With todays environment is it even worth it?   You know, put your family at risk just because you see someone do something.   Keep your mouth shut and turn your head........    Kind of why I almost admire their convictions eventhough I think they are whackjobs.

I can agree, something needs to be done to the abusers, not the entirety and I can also agree that at least they're doing something other than sitting around complaining even though I know it's piracy and eco-terrorism and don't agree with it.  I don't however agree with keeping ones mouth shut or turning ones head.  If I see something wrong I will speak up and act upon it.

With todays environment is it even worth it?   You know, put your family at risk just because you see someone do something.   Keep your mouth shut and turn your head........    Kind of why I almost admire their convictions eventhough I think they are whackjobs.

I would admire their convictions if they went about things in a responsible, ethical and legal manner. As is I can't get past seeing them as not just whackjobs, but dangerous whackjobs. They really need to be arrested or at the very least be forced to pay for any damages they have caused with their antics.

 

[boneaddict]

would admire their convictions if they went about things in a responsible, ethical and legal manner. As is I can't get past seeing them as not just whackjobs, but dangerous whackjobs. They really need to be arrested or at the very least be forced to pay for any damages they have caused with their antics.

I can agree with that.  NOW the question, if you'd answer it honestly.  How do you feel about SSS with wolves?

[boneaddict]

by the way, I appreciate the discussion.

[Atroxus]

would admire their convictions if they went about things in a responsible, ethical and legal manner. As is I can't get past seeing them as not just whackjobs, but dangerous whackjobs. They really need to be arrested or at the very least be forced to pay for any damages they have caused with their antics.

I can agree with that.  NOW the question, if you'd answer it honestly.  How do you feel about SSS with wolves?

I wouldn't do it personally. However at this point our state has proven unwilling and/or incapable of managing wolf populations in an effective way that would allow for healthy wolf populations in wilderness areas while protecting interests of land owners, so I likely would look the other way if someone else did. 

[boneaddict]

Good honest answer.  Thanks

[whacker1]

would admire their convictions if they went about things in a responsible, ethical and legal manner. As is I can't get past seeing them as not just whackjobs, but dangerous whackjobs. They really need to be arrested or at the very least be forced to pay for any damages they have caused with their antics.

I can agree with that.  NOW the question, if you'd answer it honestly.  How do you feel about SSS with wolves?

Aren't honest answers for P.m.'s?

[boneaddict]

    Maybe so with that one.

[Highcountry360]

 I'd love to have seen what the Japanese whalers did to these idiots before cameras were involved.