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Re: Magpies everywhere
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2013, 10:39:36 AM »
Just a fyi, I don't think it's legal to shoot those

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Re: Magpies everywhere
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2013, 10:48:01 AM »
Crows are everywhere too in abundant numbers here in the city. Its creepy. Harbingers of evil to come?

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Re: Magpies everywhere
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2013, 10:54:05 AM »
I have done extensiive research on this topic and kill LOTS each year. They key to this puzzle is the definition of "Depredation" I am having a hard time finding the specific WAC to cite, but have done so before onhere...(I think it got lost some how) Basically Crows and Magpies can be taken if they are in OR adjacent to agricultural feilds. So what does this mean? Well In the Columbia Basin Cutter Bee boxes are common used to polinate alfalfa and other agricultural crops. The larva are housed in a Cutter box that looks like a 3 sided 4x4x8 ft elevated  box. You will often see MANY of them in a feild. It just so happens that Magpes LOVE cutter bee larva. It also happens that farmers LOVE to giver permission to people to shoot Magpies that have these bee boxes. Many of you know that magpies roost in small trees/brushlines near feilds...  If you see those plywood boxes its time to start shooting. ALSO this time of year ther are lots of baby magpies. many of which cannot fly. they tend to be easy pickings, and thier squaking tends to bring mom and dad into shotgun range. IMO the perfect rifle for stacking up magpes is a 17hmr. I have found that when a person or vehicle approchase magpies they fly off past shot gun range and never let you get close enough. Normally landing about 150 yrds away or so... A chip shot for the 17hmr.
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Re: Magpies everywhere
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2013, 05:00:31 AM »
I have 20+ on my property in finley, in the early morning they all congregate in my yard and in my landscaping, make a hell of a racket, nice to know when they are picking on the baby quail I can take em out. my pellet guns getting dusted off soon as im home from work!

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Re: Magpies everywhere
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2013, 05:24:03 AM »
I don't see any magpies around my place. :chuckle:

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Re: Magpies everywhere
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2013, 06:16:53 PM »
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Crows may only be taken by firearms, bow and arrow and falconry

Dang.  I was thinking about making one of those ladder traps for the crows around my home.  Basically this leave you zero methods of controlling them where I live. 

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Re: Magpies everywhere
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2013, 06:17:27 AM »
I have 20+ on my property in finley, in the early morning they all congregate in my yard and in my landscaping, make a hell of a racket, nice to know when they are picking on the baby quail I can take em out. my pellet guns getting dusted off soon as im home from work!
The destruction of ornamental trees are also covered by "depredation". so if they are making a nest in, or tearing up your  trees let them have it.
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Re: Magpies everywhere
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2013, 06:25:06 AM »
WAC 232-36-051 Killing wildlife causing private property damage. The fish and wildlife commission is authorized to classify wildlife as game, and/or as endangered or protected species, and/or as a predatory bird consistent with RCW 77.08.010 and 77.12.020. The commission is also authorized, pursuant to RCW 77.36.030, to establish the limitations and conditions on killing or trapping wildlife that is causing property damage.

     The conditions for killing wildlife vary, based primarily on the classification of the wildlife species, the imminent nature of the threat to damage private property, the type of private property damage, and the preventive and nonlethal methods employed by the person prior to the damage event. Additional conditions defined by the department may also be important, depending on individual situations. Killing wildlife to address private property damage is subject to all other state and federal laws including, but not limited to, Titles 77 RCW and 232 WAC.

     (1) Killing wildlife causing damage to a commercial crop or commercial livestock.

     (a) It is permissible to kill unclassified wildlife, predatory birds, and big game animals that are in the act of damaging commercial crops or livestock, under the following conditions:

     (i) Predatory birds (defined in RCW 77.08.010(39)) and unclassified wildlife that are in the act of damaging commercial crops or livestock may be killed with the express permission of the owner at any time on private property, to protect commercial crops or livestock.

     (ii) An owner with a valid, written damage prevention agreement with the department may kill an individual (one) big game animal while it is in the act of damaging commercial crops.

     (iii) An individual (one) big game animal may be killed during the physical act of attacking livestock.

     (iv) Multiple big game animals may be killed while they are in the act of damaging commercial crops or livestock if the owner is issued a kill permit by the department.

     (v) A damage prevention agreement or kill permit must include: An approved checklist of the reasonable preventative and nonlethal means that must be employed prior to lethal removal; a description of the properties where lethal removal is allowed; the species and sex of the animal that may be killed; the terms of the agreement/permit; the dates when lethal removal is authorized; who may kill the animal(s); and other conditions developed within department procedural documents.

     (b) It is unlawful to kill protected species (as defined in WAC 232-12-011) or endangered species (as defined in WAC 232-12-014) unless authorized by commission rule or with a permit from the department, with the following additional requirements:

     (i) Federally listed threatened or endangered species will require federal permits or federal authority, in addition to a state permit.

     (ii) All migratory birds are federally protected and may require a federal permit or federal authority, in addition to a state permit.

     (2) Killing wildlife causing damage or killing wildlife to prevent private property damage.
(a) An individual (one) big game animal may be killed during the physical act of attacking livestock or pets.

     (b) Predatory birds (as defined in RCW 77.08.010(39)), unclassified wildlife, and eastern gray squirrels may be killed with the express permission of the property owner at any time, to prevent private property damage on private real property.

     (c) Subject to subsection (6) of this section, the following list of wildlife species may be killed with the express permission of the owner, when causing damage to private property: Raccoon, fox, bobcat, beaver, muskrat, mink, river otter, weasel, hare, and cottontail rabbits.

     (d) The department may make agreements with landowners to prevent private property damage by wildlife. The agreements may include special hunting season permits such as: Landowner damage prevention permits, spring black bear hunting permits, permits issued through the landowner hunting permit program, kill permits, and Master Hunter permits.

     (e) Landowners are encouraged to allow general season hunters during established hunting seasons on their property to help minimize damage potential and concerns.

     (3) Wildlife control operators may assist property owners under the conditions of their permit, as established in WAC 232-36-060 and 232-36-065.

     (4) Tribal members may assist property owners under the conditions of valid comanagement agreements between tribes and the department. Tribes must be in compliance with the agreements including, but not limited to, adhering to reporting requirements and harvest restrictions.

     (5) Hunting licenses and tags are not required to kill wildlife under this section, unless the killing is pursuant to subsections (2)(c) and (d) of this section. Tribal members operating under subsection (4) of this section are required to meet tribal hunting license, tag, and permit requirements.

     (6) Except as specifically provided in a permit from the department or a rule of the commission, people taking wildlife under this rule are subject to the laws and rules of the state including, but not limited to, those found in Titles 77 RCW and 220 and 232 WAC.
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

 


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