Like I said before, the only time I have ever been in this area was in the early archery season. I was really surprised at the lack of deer. I think we only saw 3 does, and we saw them every day we were there. It looks like great country for deer and elk, but man talk about void of deer. I know it was not the pressure that kept them out of sight. I think we only ran into 4 guys all weekend. oh well if nothing else I will be there to help my buddy pack a elk out and if all goes well I will shoot a buck. It should be a good time no matter what. It is always fun to hunt new parts of the state.