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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2014, 06:48:03 PM »
You know, with all the bitching we do on here about tribal abuses regarding elk harvest.........I wonder if the tribes could have any pull in getting wolves delisted by the state any earlier.  If I were the tribe, I think I'd sue the state for their crappy wolf loving plan. 

Just a thought that ran thru my skull...........  :dunno:
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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2014, 06:54:04 PM »
lmao curly! ya their scared you guys will bitch when they shoot 4 or 5 wolves in the feeding stations and go to mcdonalds!

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2014, 07:01:03 PM »

You know, with all the bitching we do on here about tribal abuses regarding elk harvest.........I wonder if the tribes could have any pull in getting wolves delisted by the state any earlier.  If I were the tribe, I think I'd sue the state for their crappy wolf loving plan. 

Just a thought that ran thru my skull...........  :dunno:

What I've been told is that once wolves are delisted in the tribal areas, then the tribes can hunt them.
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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2014, 07:44:34 PM »
The other day I saw on FB where a wolf was packing away someone's dog ...There were 3 big dogs in a yard and the wolf had one by the neck packing it off while the other dogs were trying to fight it off ...The wolf never blinked an eye as the other dogs were biting at it ...Pure killing machines ...I think it was in Montana ...I could not get the link to work ...For sure a crazy video ..

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2014, 07:49:18 PM »
Bowhunter, that video link was on here...i thought it was a tribal village like Vancouver island or alaska?

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2014, 07:51:55 PM »
where is it ? Must have missed that one ... I know it was a village but I swear it was in Montana ...maybe I am wrong ...did someone shoot at the wolf and miss it ? That boy needs some accuracy lessons  :dunno: :chuckle:

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2014, 08:07:03 PM »
it was a village on Vancouver island!

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2014, 08:08:45 PM »

You know, with all the bitching we do on here about tribal abuses regarding elk harvest.........I wonder if the tribes could have any pull in getting wolves delisted by the state any earlier.  If I were the tribe, I think I'd sue the state for their crappy wolf loving plan. 

Just a thought that ran thru my skull...........  :dunno:

What I've been told is that once wolves are delisted in the tribal areas, then the tribes can hunt them.

You mean the ceded lands?
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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2014, 08:30:54 PM »
did someone shoot at the wolf and miss it ? That boy needs some accuracy lessons  :chuckle:

 :yeah:  YUP Can't believe he miss it....   :chuckle: 

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2014, 08:41:15 PM »

You know, with all the bitching we do on here about tribal abuses regarding elk harvest.........I wonder if the tribes could have any pull in getting wolves delisted by the state any earlier.  If I were the tribe, I think I'd sue the state for their crappy wolf loving plan. 

Just a thought that ran thru my skull...........  :dunno:

What I've been told is that once wolves are delisted in the tribal areas, then the tribes can hunt them.

You mean the ceded lands?

I believe so. The words used when I was told this were "our lands". Not sure if that's on the reservation or the ceded lands.
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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2014, 08:45:05 PM »
im not exactly sure how it will work but im gonna guess it works like bighorn sheep! whatever the rules on ceded land is for those that will probably be the blue print for wolves with the tribe!

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2014, 10:00:11 PM »
Got to shoot the big yotes if you get a chance :tup: or in the next years to come will all be standing around the ole campfire talking about how elk and deer hunting used to be and our kids and grandkids will have missed out.  :twocents:

Let's see, Alaska is just over 9 times larger than Washington.  Alaska has about 10,000 wolves and there is still plenty of game to hunt. That would be like Washington having over 1,000 wolves, which will never happen. Washington is so populated that there would be too much conflict for one thing.  I doubt your scenario will come true.

More likely, your kids and grandkids will have no place to hunt unless they want to spend lots of money for access as more of Washington's private property becomes gated pay for hunting land, and communities continue to grow taking game habitat with them.

Let me guess.  You have not spent time hunting areas like Idaho where this has been devastating.  If you want to compare something try Idaho as it is next to Washington, and Alaska is a whole different case.  I have personally seen the devastation.  How many wolf kills have you stood over?  Seriously man.

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2014, 10:06:34 PM »
lmao curly! ya their scared you guys will bitch when they shoot 4 or 5 wolves in the feeding stations and go to mcdonalds!

I don't get the joke?  :dunno:

I'm just saying that if the elk herds dwindle down due to too many wolves, it is because wdfw adopted the ridiculous wolf plan instead of a more practical one.  If I were a tribal member, I'd be pissed about the mismanagement by wdfw. 

Lets say the eastern half of the state gets delisted by the feds (like the eastern third is currently) but the state with their wolf management plan still maintains wolf protections.  Sure the Yakamas can then kill wolves since they are only state protected, but what can they do by then?  The wolf population is going to be hard to control unless they resort to poison and aerial gunning.............(maybe the tribe will ???).  If the elk herd is going to be affected like some believe, then if I were a Yakama indian, I'd be pissed that wdfw implemented that ridiculous plan instead of delisting wolves like the Feds allowed.

It would be kind of ironic if the Yakama tribe made an issue about wolves killing elk.........you know wolves have only slightly less restrictions on killing elk than the Yakamas do.  :chuckle: 

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2014, 10:41:12 PM »
Got to shoot the big yotes if you get a chance :tup: or in the next years to come will all be standing around the ole campfire talking about how elk and deer hunting used to be and our kids and grandkids will have missed out.  :twocents:

Let's see, Alaska is just over 9 times larger than Washington.  Alaska has about 10,000 wolves and there is still plenty of game to hunt. That would be like Washington having over 1,000 wolves, which will never happen. Washington is so populated that there would be too much conflict for one thing.  I doubt your scenario will come true.

More likely, your kids and grandkids will have no place to hunt unless they want to spend lots of money for access as more of Washington's private property becomes gated pay for hunting land, and communities continue to grow taking game habitat with them.

Let me guess.  You have not spent time hunting areas like Idaho where this has been devastating.  If you want to compare something try Idaho as it is next to Washington, and Alaska is a whole different case.  I have personally seen the devastation.  How many wolf kills have you stood over?  Seriously man.

Has elk hunting stopped in idaho ?? I agree with Sitka that land issues & habitat are bigger problems than wolves..wolves suck for sure but they aren't gona bring an end to hunting just like they havent in states that have been dealing with them for awhile now

Hunting might get slow an less elk might be killed but once tag sales drop fish an game has no choice but to react..there jobs depend on it

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Re: The end to Elk hunting
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2014, 11:02:53 PM »
COME ON...Someone out there must have the money to sue them for mis-management!!
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