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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #105 on: April 28, 2014, 04:18:40 PM »
If you are concerned about your safety and herbicide applications; then maybe you should stay off their private lands.

With them implementing the permits to enter....that won't be a problem for me. :dunno:

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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #106 on: April 28, 2014, 04:22:06 PM »
If you are concerned about your safety and herbicide applications; then maybe you should stay off their private lands.

Aside from the obvious rebuttals against this statement.....what about the water that runs off their private lands and into the publics drinking source ??  Next thing you know down syndrome rates start going threw the roof....wait... they are ? Can't prove it but at the same time can't not prove it.... You never know what the long term affects are going to be

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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #107 on: April 28, 2014, 04:37:38 PM »
If you are concerned about your safety and herbicide applications; then maybe you should stay off their private lands.

Aside from the obvious rebuttals against this statement.....what about the water that runs off their private lands and into the publics drinking source ??  Next thing you know down syndrome rates start going threw the roof....wait... they are ? Can't prove it but at the same time can't not prove it.... You never know what the long term affects are going to be

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Some of the chemicals in use will last in the soil for an extended time, so they eventually get washed down.  Additionally, some sprays are distributed aerially, so the wind blows that stuff off their property--either during the spraying or being blown off of the higher trees.  They need to keep their chemicals on their land. (yeah, odd concept)

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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #108 on: April 29, 2014, 11:27:22 AM »
There seems to be a major lack of regulation with tree farm spraying. Reason may be that trees are not a food source for human consumption. Not a good excuse. Someday after it's been determaned and after it's too late) these poisons will be banned.
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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #109 on: April 29, 2014, 12:52:34 PM »
The bags referenced earlier were urea fertilizer not herbicides. They spread this on coastal forestlands. I believe internal data suggested it did not increase growth in their coastal fir plantations and I believe they have suspended that program.

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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #110 on: May 02, 2014, 08:52:48 PM »
I would encourage everyone with concerns on this issue,to contact Kara so we can make some changes, in the forest practices in this state.
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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #111 on: May 03, 2014, 08:27:01 AM »
I would encourage everyone with concerns on this issue,to contact Kara so we can make some changes, in the forest practices in this state.
Kara Whittaker, PhD
Senior Scientist & Policy Analyst
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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #112 on: May 03, 2014, 08:39:43 AM »
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If you are concerned about your safety and herbicide applications; then maybe you should stay off their private lands.


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With them implementing the permits to enter....that won't be a problem for me.

You guys do know that the State sprays their clear cuts as well.  I'd hate for people to get the impression that it is only the big private companies doing it. 

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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #113 on: May 03, 2014, 09:47:12 AM »
I'm having them look into the whole process,permitting,sepa,nepa,clean water act as well.The laws for forestry are out dated and is very limited,when it comes to chemicals in the forest.I was also surprised to find out there's no  permit fee for sprays.They
have our tax payers in the state,paying for the review of these permits at the DNR.In addition there's no protection,for any wildlife that unprotected or isn't listed or endangered.Were going to push to get some of these chemicals,out of the forest.As a outdoor enthusiasts and avid hunter in the state,I won't stand to lied to by the WDFW and law makers in this state anymore.We may not get all we want,but what's the health and safety of family and friends worth?not to mention the fish and wildlife in this state.Im asking people to voice concerns over what's going on here this is a call to action.

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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #114 on: May 03, 2014, 10:38:59 AM »
Okay I googled the group I found out that they are a law firm that specializes in Forest Practices. I wouldn't suggest that everyone contact kara; I'm sure she has better things to do than talk with us.   it is great that you contacted her Bruce, but having everybody else contact her is not a good idea. Sounds like a they do free legal work for environmental groups so sounds like we need an environmental group for them to get behind and do the work.
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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #115 on: May 03, 2014, 05:05:11 PM »
Another thing....what can a law firm do about herbicide use if using it is legal?   Seems like some extensive studies will be needed in order to link herbicide use to unhealthy wildlife.
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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #116 on: May 03, 2014, 07:22:50 PM »
Legally I am unsure what they can do....My theory is they "may" be able to get a injunction because the E.P.A. does not test all of these products, they only "approve, or register" products  and may force the state or E.P.A. to do in dependant studies to concur with the manufacturers findings.

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Re: RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES
« Reply #117 on: May 04, 2014, 04:09:29 AM »
If you are concerned about your safety and herbicide applications; then maybe you should stay off their private lands.

And if we're also concerned about our wildlife and ground water, what do you suggest then? Contaminated water doesn't stay on their private lands, as you put it, and the wildlife belongs to all of us regardless of on whose land it's suffering.
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