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Re: WDFW ASKS CONGRESSMAN FOR HELP SPURRING USFWS WOLF DELISTING
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2015, 06:59:04 AM »
These must be the same wildlife professionals who ignored wolf reports in the North Bend area for years until one was finally hit by a car. The WDFW hasn't been professional in the past regarding accurate reporting of wolf packs. One of the biggest complaints in the NE early on was that they were downplaying the damage being done, often attributing the losses to other predators. I hope it's different with Unsworth at the helm. But the fact that he's talking about management being 6 years away leads me to believe that for the residents of the NE, they can expect little assistance in the form of realistic management of problem wolves.
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Re: WDFW ASKS CONGRESSMAN FOR HELP SPURRING USFWS WOLF DELISTING
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2015, 08:04:15 AM »
These must be the same wildlife professionals who ignored wolf reports in the North Bend area for years until one was finally hit by a car. The WDFW hasn't been professional in the past regarding accurate reporting of wolf packs. One of the biggest complaints in the NE early on was that they were downplaying the damage being done, often attributing the losses to other predators. I hope it's different with Unsworth at the helm. But the fact that he's talking about management being 6 years away leads me to believe that for the residents of the NE, they can expect little assistance in the form of realistic management of problem wolves.

I imagine that's based on the law of averages. Based on the time it took for ___ to happen, it will take X amount more years for ____ to happen. At least he gave a time frame, which is more than what can be said for the last guy at the helm.
Everybody local knows there have been wolves in the North Bend area off and on for a few years, including the local WDFW guys I know of. Ignored is not accurate. It wasn't reported on King 5, but they all knew they were there. Not sticking up for anyone, just reporting what I know as a local and as someone who has a pretty good handle on local happenings. However...SSDD....until they've got their breeding pack established, it's not a pack. They knew they were there though.
 
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Re: WDFW ASKS CONGRESSMAN FOR HELP SPURRING USFWS WOLF DELISTING
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2015, 09:12:14 AM »
These must be the same wildlife professionals who ignored wolf reports in the North Bend area for years until one was finally hit by a car. The WDFW hasn't been professional in the past regarding accurate reporting of wolf packs. One of the biggest complaints in the NE early on was that they were downplaying the damage being done, often attributing the losses to other predators. I hope it's different with Unsworth at the helm. But the fact that he's talking about management being 6 years away leads me to believe that for the residents of the NE, they can expect little assistance in the form of realistic management of problem wolves.

I imagine that's based on the law of averages. Based on the time it took for ___ to happen, it will take X amount more years for ____ to happen. At least he gave a time frame, which is more than what can be said for the last guy at the helm.
Everybody local knows there have been wolves in the North Bend area off and on for a few years, including the local WDFW guys I know of. Ignored is not accurate. It wasn't reported on King 5, but they all knew they were there. Not sticking up for anyone, just reporting what I know as a local and as someone who has a pretty good handle on local happenings. However...SSDD....until they've got their breeding pack established, it's not a pack. They knew they were there though.

It's been 8 years since WDFW were forced to confirm the first wolf pack, in 8 years they have only confirmed 5 breeding pairs. In 2002 WDFW claim wolves started moving in to WA from Idaho etc. and now 13 years later WDFW are giving time frames? I guess that sort of terminology works for those who haven't followed WDFW wolf history, or any wolf history for that matter.

How much damage will WDFW's wolves do to WA's game herds given six more years till delisting/wolf control?

"But the fact that he's talking about management being 6 years away leads me to believe that for the residents of the NE, they can expect little assistance in the form of realistic management of problem wolves."

 :yeah:

As far as Unsworth goes, Idaho was sure glad to see him gone, plus his history in Idaho doesn't leave me feeling hopeful that things will change for the better.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,168303.50.html
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Re: WDFW ASKS CONGRESSMAN FOR HELP SPURRING USFWS WOLF DELISTING
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2015, 06:50:59 PM »
Also the same new guy who let the tribes basically shut down king fishing in the sound. And yes, the old commish made the deal but this guy just sat there and shook his head yes. Listen to the podcast on 710. The guy is clueless... :yike: :bdid:
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