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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2016, 02:46:35 PM »
I followed sabotloader with his setup. I did the front hood and dovetail sight. Didn't care for that much. Re installed my factory front sight. Still have the Williams fp rear sight. I'm shooting great groups out to 200 yards.
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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2016, 05:18:47 PM »
I bought 2 sets of peeps. a few years ago. 1 for my muzzy and 1 for my sons. I took mine off after experiencing extreme frustration of it blocking out too much of an elk in a herd. Never put my sons on his muzzy. Not a fan of peeps in thick stuff. Probably better in open country. But the only reason I would ever use them again would be for target shooting!

Peep sight should block out nothing more than what the front sight is covering and not even that if you shoot w/both eyes open. 

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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2016, 05:53:16 PM »
Williams peep with the factory front site but I made a improvement to my front site by installing my own fiber optic that's smaller Diameter,  my shooting improved dramatically.

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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2016, 07:12:06 PM »
I'm a regular aperture sight user, on a modern rifle. I shoot every day, from 50 to 200 yards. They are quite accurate.  My rifle came with the sight. Was thrilled about using it in brush. The reality - It's probably the worst sight possible in any sort of brush or doghair thicket. I know I know, it was hard for me to swallow.  I myself would sacrifice a little accuracy for being able to see my target.  ML season is short enough, without making it any harder.
 The aperture sight is best for the range or more open country. Low light? Forget it.
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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2016, 07:13:33 PM »
After all the best group is one shot. And that's all yer getting with a ML
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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2016, 07:59:10 PM »
I bought 2 sets of peeps. a few years ago. 1 for my muzzy and 1 for my sons. I took mine off after experiencing extreme frustration of it blocking out too much of an elk in a herd. Never put my sons on his muzzy. Not a fan of peeps in thick stuff. Probably better in open country. But the only reason I would ever use them again would be for target shooting!

Peep sight should block out nothing more than what the front sight is covering and not even that if you shoot w/both eyes open.

I don't shoot with both eyes open. And the sight blocked out enough to cost me an elk a couple times in the same day. These were Williams fp sights too. There is no doubt in my mind that I could have seen a better picture and made the shot with open sights. Done it before.

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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2016, 08:22:13 PM »
I bought 2 sets of peeps. a few years ago. 1 for my muzzy and 1 for my sons. I took mine off after experiencing extreme frustration of it blocking out too much of an elk in a herd. Never put my sons on his muzzy. Not a fan of peeps in thick stuff. Probably better in open country. But the only reason I would ever use them again would be for target shooting!

Peep sight should block out nothing more than what the front sight is covering and not even that if you shoot w/both eyes open.

I don't shoot with both eyes open. And the sight blocked out enough to cost me an elk a couple times in the same day. These were Williams fp sights too. There is no doubt in my mind that I could have seen a better picture and made the shot with open sights. Done it before.

I have also known people who never could use an apperature sight, for some reason the same individuals cannot shoot a scoped handgun either. 

In my case I don't even notice the rear sight and it is as natural as pointing a shotgun.  I have shot a lot of target rifles using aperture sights though.

For those who cannot use a peep sight, open sights are the only alternative in Washington for ML season. 

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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2016, 07:07:58 AM »
Peep sights are generally considered for target shooting not hunting. As one member mentioned above the peep will block out the surrounding area when aiming. Open sights are a much better choice for hunting and acquiring a quick aim.

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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2016, 08:25:00 AM »
Peep sights are generally considered for target shooting not hunting. As one member mentioned above the peep will block out the surrounding area when aiming. Open sights are a much better choice for hunting and acquiring a quick aim.

I think that might vary a little from person to person, but I can tell you personally that the upgraded sight setup was 10x better than the factory open/iron sights as far as sight picture goes for me.

If you're not upgrading the post to a smaller sized post, then I'm right there with you.
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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2016, 08:38:15 AM »
Peep sights are generally considered for target shooting not hunting. As one member mentioned above the peep will block out the surrounding area when aiming. Open sights are a much better choice for hunting and acquiring a quick aim.

No they do not.  Utilized correctly a rear aperture sight blocks out NOTHING.  Open sights, on the other hand, when correctly used, block out much of your target animal.  The illustration below, courtesy of Jack O'Conner, actually shows the view through an aperture sight that is positioned too far away from the shooter's eye.  Correctly set up the sight picture using a rear peep sight would favor the aperture sight even more.   
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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2016, 08:55:55 AM »
Think some of them are saying that in their case the rear aperture is blocking out too much peripheral and they lose too much FOV.  That is why I like the sight way back and the disc not too wide, it seems to fade away and not destroy FOV. 

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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2016, 09:09:13 AM »
Think some of them are saying that in their case the rear aperture is blocking out too much peripheral and they lose too much FOV.  That is why I like the sight way back and the disc not too wide, it seems to fade away and not destroy FOV. 


I see your logic here. My peep was mounted on a weaver style base mounted into the rear scope base holes. It was way back.
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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2016, 09:18:59 AM »
I followed sabotloader with his setup. I did the front hood and dovetail sight. Didn't care for that much. Re installed my factory front sight. Still have the Williams fp rear sight. I'm shooting great groups out to 200 yards.
Do you still have the front sight set up? Any interest in selling it? Does it fit knight rifles?

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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2016, 09:27:19 AM »
Think some of them are saying that in their case the rear aperture is blocking out too much peripheral and they lose too much FOV.  That is why I like the sight way back and the disc not too wide, it seems to fade away and not destroy FOV. 


I see your logic here. My peep was mounted on a weaver style base mounted into the rear scope base holes. It was way back.

Generally speaking the location of rear scope base would be about the maximum distance from the shooter's eye that you would want the aperture to be located.  Depending on the location of the rear sight base on the receiver of the rifle, of course.  If you are talking target blocks mounted to the barrel in front of the receiver then this would not apply, but in the case of most rifles it would. 

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Re: Peep sights on muzzleloader
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2016, 12:20:34 PM »
I tried peeps on my muzzleloader.  Can't stand them and like open sighted way better!

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