floorless shelters ??

[sjhgraysage]

For those of you that have tried Floorless shelters, for example Kifaru tipi, or Seek Outside Cimmaron, or similar etc.
What are the pros and cons of not having a floor?
what about a couple days or so of very wet rainy conditions did you get wet inside the shelter?

Thanks
Scott

[WAcoyotehunter]

being able to lift a will a little to let fresh air in.  I don't like humid tents and would rather deal with a bit of draftiness, a floorless shelter lets you control that much better

[jackelope]

Pro's- lightweight. Easy venting like what's said above.
Cons- waking up with a mouse on your chest.

[Karl Blanchard]

Tagoing for later

[Jonathan_S]

The only time I choose a floored tent anymore is a week or more in a wet area. Or snakes. I don't care about bugs and mice. I usually bring a mousetrap when backpacking (don't worry UL guys, you can drill holes in it) and if you catch a mouse, the rest of the mice stay busy eating it

[kselkhunter]

I have the Seek Outside tipi.  Floorless is fine most of the year.  The "sod skirt" on the Seek Outside models helps keeps out bugs fairly well. For really heavy rain, or if my wife comes along on a backpacking trip, I have the nest insert that I pack for those trips.  Otherwise a simple small tarp on the ground where you're sleeping bag and gear is works fine with open floor, and I pack my cot so i'm off the ground a bit.  It's nice not having to worry about tracking mud in the tent or taking your boots off outside so the floorless benefit is worth it.  And the luxury of being able to stand up inside due to the taller height of a tipi really matters to me after a week of hard hunting.  Maybe I'm just getting old....

[ian_padron]

I have a Seek Outside Cimarron and a Jimmy Tarps Alpine Basin in the mail. I made the leap to floorless this year, and I'm a believer.

Pros: SUPER light. The cimarron weighs in at 40 ounces with a stovejack, the alpine basin is 20. That's freaking light man!
          No mess, muddy boots? wet clothes? who cares, walk on in and toss it on the ground.
          flexible, you can pitch these things in so many different ways depending on the terrain, weather, etc. I'll include some       pics in another reply
          ability to run a stove. that's a huge game changer come late season.

Cons: Condensation is god awful if you get the pitch wrong. After a few hard lesson I have it dialed in pretty well and keep it      minimal to nonexistent depending on the weather.
 If the ground is already wet, you need to make sure you have some form of floor material with you to protect your sleep system, no biggie in my opinion, and i use one no matter what the conditions are. I use a SOL emergency blanket to add a little warmth to my sleeping pad.

[ian_padron]

 
Pitched a bit high with tensioners and guyouts on the stake loops. No condensation.



Pitched tight. No bueno unless the weather is real gnarly.

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[ian_padron]

One more to show how roomy the Cimarron is, I'll post the Alpine Basin as soon as I have it.

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[tonymoe]

Love floor less method!! I've had a few, my most recent favorite is the MSR twin brother. I had a local gal sew in a stove jack for my kifaru med stove. Absolute game changer when you up in the "censored" and you need to dry off!
I've never been wet with my floorless tents. I own MSR twins sister & twin brother right now. I had a seek outside 6 man teepee before. Great tent, just wasn't the right fit for me

[swisski]

I have a Seek Outside Cimarron and a Jimmy Tarps Alpine Basin in the mail. I made the leap to floorless this year, and I'm a believer.

Pros: SUPER light. The cimarron weighs in at 40 ounces with a stovejack, the alpine basin is 20. That's freaking light man!
          No mess, muddy boots? wet clothes? who cares, walk on in and toss it on the ground.
          flexible, you can pitch these things in so many different ways depending on the terrain, weather, etc. I'll include some       pics in another reply
          ability to run a stove. that's a huge game changer come late season.

Cons: Condensation is god awful if you get the pitch wrong. After a few hard lesson I have it dialed in pretty well and keep it      minimal to nonexistent depending on the weather.
 If the ground is already wet, you need to make sure you have some form of floor material with you to protect your sleep system, no biggie in my opinion, and i use one no matter what the conditions are. I use a SOL emergency blanket to add a little warmth to my sleeping pad.

Ian, good to meet you on Tatoosh man!

Listen to the man, once you go floor-less, you never go back. I have the SO 8 man tipi and swear by it. One learning trip was in the Olympic Peninsula last archery elk season. While the weather was better than your average November hunt, we still received a couple inches of rain over the 4 days we were there. The liner saved us in this instance, but the new preferred method for dealing with condensation is pitching it like Ian has shown above. We did this with my buddy's Cimarron last weekend and it did wonders, waking up with no condensation on the side walls.

One thing to note on the Peninsula trip, we set it up with the ground a little wet, but running the stove for a few hours took care of the situation just fine.