I spoke with my buddies brother the other day; he lives within the unit we are hunting. He popped out and did some looking and listening and it seems there a couple nice sized groups roaming and he could hear some bulls bugling. None responding to his calls though. I just bought a new bugle and am excited to try it out. I use to have the E.L.K Power Bugle and it was great; but I just bought the Primos Terminator. I tried reed calling and it was hard as hell! So i'm sticking to the tube. haha. I've got the hoochie mama strung up; along with some estrus scent wafers and of course some windicator. Time to hunt!