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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2019, 05:04:07 PM »
Its the state and local police showing true colors. Police are not on our side (at least very few are). We are at a time where our gun rights have really come under attack. The new laws getting passed in Washington and Oregon basically start making us California. More people including state officials need to start giving a middle finger to some of these laws/procedures.

Simple answer could have been: "we have a bunch of guns in lock up set for destruction. instead we would like to hold a public auction and sell them at a discount to those less fortunate."

Its a missed opportunity as I see it. Were rights stepped on? no. But true colors are being brought to light that we cant count on our local PD's to have our backs in this matter. SOME sheriffs have said they wont enforce new guns laws  :tup: others (like in my county) said the WILL :bash:
As far as I know, many agency's do this. Open the 6 months or a years worth of seized firearms to bid for local FFL's. Highest bidder takes stack.FFL safety checks weapons, destroys those unsafe, and everyone wins.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #76 on: February 21, 2019, 06:39:09 PM »
Didn't we all get red in the face mad when that border patrol agent got killed by a gun sold by the government? Sure it's a different set of circumstances but wouldn't the police department have a huge black eye when a gun they sold is used in a crime? Shouldn't we expect the police department to follow the laws?

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #78 on: February 21, 2019, 07:12:00 PM »
Meanwhile as the Benchmade debacle unfolds –
Black rifle - SOG knives - Emerson knives - H&K / Hogue Knives -PNW Knives – Cabot guns - Sandrin knives
Have made it VERY clear they are not fans of Benchmade.

This article covers a lot - https://www.recoilweb.com/benchmade-destroys-guns-internet-in-flames-147391.html

More info - https://www.campaignmoney.com/
Mr. Les de Asis  - Founder, Owner and Chief Executive Officer
Numerous Political Contributions to Darlene Hooley (scores F by NRA on pro-gun rights policies)

Ms. Roberta De Asis - Chief Administrative Officer
Numerous Political Contributions to KURT SCHRADER (poor voting record/Ronald L Wyden (Rated F by the NRA)

Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) is requesting that the Oregon City Police turn over “records about the destruction of firearms” from July 1, 2018, to the present. FPC is also requesting the police department turn over “all records that are, relate, or refer to communications with, to, or from Benchmade” for the same period.

Is Benchmade Anti-Gun? - The Fight
https://www.full30.com/watch/MDE5Mzg1/is-benchmade-anti-gun---the-fight?fbclid=IwAR2NFrcVLZKaTLpdZD_4BI2P4Tr0VvDdk60hJ-TwmnydxXQYiYw5nZ3PpDA
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #79 on: February 21, 2019, 07:46:49 PM »
When the guns are destroyed it leaves more room in the marketplace for new guns. Gun manufacturers and gun retailers will be happy to make and sell you a gun, as long as you are legal to buy one. Guns are just tools after all.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #80 on: February 21, 2019, 07:56:33 PM »
I don't see the problem the guns needed to be destroyed and benchmade has the equipment to do it.
I worked in a local steel mill and we use to melt up truck loads of firearms no big deal imo

Benchmade donates 100 per cent to anti gun left wing look Dem politicians who are actively involved in banning all firearms

Seems ok to me :dunno:

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=D000047693&cycle=2018

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Police departments don’t bother tracing seized crime guns to
Ensure they are returned to their owners after the judicial process is completed

Wouldn’t you want your stolen firearms returned
I happen to know some very Republican 2a supporting business owners that give to their local reps that are dems. The do so for the very same reasons Trump did. ACCESS! If you want to call it protection money or acess $  and want to argue those merits so be it. The fact that they have given $ to their shyster anti constitutional rep just means they are protecting their interests.  I'd bet they dont like it anymore than you do but it's a business not a philsopical debate.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2019, 07:59:11 PM »
Didn't we all get red in the face mad when that border patrol agent got killed by a gun sold by the government? Sure it's a different set of circumstances but wouldn't the police department have a huge black eye when a gun they sold is used in a crime? Shouldn't we expect the police department to follow the laws?
That's some odd circulars reasoning...?
Borders on the edges of "bad people don't kill people, guns kill people"..
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2019, 08:06:02 PM »
Didn't we all get red in the face mad when that border patrol agent got killed by a gun sold by the government? Sure it's a different set of circumstances but wouldn't the police department have a huge black eye when a gun they sold is used in a crime? Shouldn't we expect the police department to follow the laws?
That's some odd circulars reasoning...?
Borders on the edges of "bad people don't kill people, guns kill people"..

I'll grant you it's not a great argument but you can't argue a police department selling a gun later to be used in a crime is a bad look. Remember the kid in Seattle who got shot while in possession of a firearm owned years prior by a sherriffs deputy and all the blow back that caused. Not to mention the fact that it is against the law for the police to have sold those guns. If they were to follow through on some on here's suggestions and just sell them since it is a dumb law that they can't they would be taking a gigantic risk and opening themselves to huge liability.

Since they legally have to be destroyed why would Benchmade not comply with the request. Don't go after Benchmade go after the policy makers.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #83 on: February 21, 2019, 08:07:34 PM »
"The police department follows Oregon statute 98.245 and 98.336 when disposing of property"

 While it is within the law for the police department to auction off seized firearms, Davis (Oregon City Police Department’s Public Information Officer, Captian Shaun Davis) stated that in the 20 years he has been employed at the Oregon City Police Department, they have never sold firearms to licensed dealers.

Perhaps that policy needs to be revisited.

"There’s no question that Benchmade made a poor business decision: in the current climate, gun owners are on high alert for any company or organization that is not in favor of individual liberties. The bigger question is, is this one event related to a broader anti-gun stance by Benchmade?"
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #84 on: February 21, 2019, 08:14:13 PM »
 The bigger question is, is this one event related to a broader anti-gun stance by Benchmade?[/i]"
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So leading. Why not ask is this decision one event related to benchmark hating babies?


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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #85 on: February 21, 2019, 08:15:39 PM »
So leading. Why not ask is this decision one event related to benchmark hating babies?

Oh Snap!!

Benchmade is pro-abortion??   GAH!  >:(

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2019, 08:19:49 PM »
Exactly.

I see this as worse than a non issue.  I see this as pro 2a trying to find outrage where none exists.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2019, 08:21:56 PM »
Exactly.

I see this as worse than a non issue.  I see this as pro 2a trying to find outrage where none exists.

We have been learning from the left how to do fake outrage.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2019, 08:24:24 PM »
Didn't we all get red in the face mad when that border patrol agent got killed by a gun sold by the government? Sure it's a different set of circumstances but wouldn't the police department have a huge black eye when a gun they sold is used in a crime? Shouldn't we expect the police department to follow the laws?
That's some odd circulars reasoning...?
Borders on the edges of "bad people don't kill people, guns kill people"..

I'll grant you it's not a great argument but you can't argue a police department selling a gun later to be used in a crime is a bad look. Remember the kid in Seattle who got shot while in possession of a firearm owned years prior by a sherriffs deputy and all the blow back that caused. Not to mention the fact that it is against the law for the police to have sold those guns. If they were to follow through on some on here's suggestions and just sell them since it is a dumb law that they can't they would be taking a gigantic risk and opening themselves to huge liability.

Since they legally have to be destroyed why would Benchmade not comply with the request. Don't go after Benchmade go after the policy makers.
It's a bad look when anybody commits a firearm related crime, wether legally sold by a licensed FFL, or seized by law agency, sold to FFL, the legally sold by an FFL..
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #89 on: February 21, 2019, 08:42:31 PM »
Didn't we all get red in the face mad when that border patrol agent got killed by a gun sold by the government? Sure it's a different set of circumstances but wouldn't the police department have a huge black eye when a gun they sold is used in a crime? Shouldn't we expect the police department to follow the laws?

Many small police departments sell their seized firearms to help raise funds to help the department
So when Cabela’s sells a firearm used later in in a crime should they be ashamed too?

What’s the difference?

 


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