Multi Season leftovers

[trophyhunt]

If you are gonna try to get an elk tag, best of luck!  You'll have to be first in line, and have an employee that knows what they are doing.  Fred meyer opens at 6 by my work, I'd have to be standing at the doors at 6 (or before) and get to the counter and sit for 4 hours, and then hope the person has half a brain. The tags will be gone in seconds.

worse than the Idaho tag sales

BOOM!!!!  way worse, lol.   I'm not even gonna try this year and I've been successful twice in the past with these draws.  The lady who I went to retired, she was on it!!  And I did take the 4 hours of vacation to be first in line. 

[Apples]

So here is an idea, how about when you put in for them you pay your money up front for tag if you don't get drawn you get a refund, problem solved.

[dreadi]

So here is an idea, how about when you put in for them you pay your money up front for tag if you don't get drawn you get a refund, problem solved.

Other states do it. I do wonder if the amount of interest they would collect would be worth the amount of work involved.


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[HntnFsh]

Got the email a few days ago.

[trophyhunt]

Imagine if the dealer at the store you stand in line for hours, wants the tag and does himself first?!! lol, no one would get one after him!  I can see that happening.

[pbg]

Im just fed up with the whole multi season draw system, why not just make it an OTC tag for residences and charge $300.00 including tag and then make it a draw only for non residences . With around 11,000 hunter trying to get 8500 permitts and then have 2300 permitts returned i think it would work out for everyone in the long run. The people that really want one will pay the money and those that think it too exspensive wont.

[Twispriver]

 
I'd vote yes for that 

[Simcoe hunter]

Imagine if the dealer at the store you stand in line for hours, wants the tag and does himself first?!! lol, no one would get one after him!  I can see that happening.

The dealer here in Goldendale does that for his brother.  Why not draw from the pool of names that didn't get one since they already paid the fee to be in the drawing.  And then they should be able to purchase it at the lower price before the increase took effect.  This state is really getting out of hand.

[Angus]

Imagine if the dealer at the store you stand in line for hours, wants the tag and does himself first?!! lol, no one would get one after him!  I can see that happening.

My wife used to work the customer service desk at FM (and knew how to sell licenses) wish she still worked there and worked next Tuesday. Not really, she makes a hell of a lot more $$$ now. 

I do wish they had a better system, I have to work Tuesday, no chance for me to get 1.

[NOCK NOCK]

So here is an idea, how about when you put in for them you pay your money up front for tag if you don't get drawn you get a refund, problem solved.

THIS    but add....

If you do get drawn, NO turning it back in.

Crazy stupid to me that 2600 returned theirs.

If ya dont want it........dont apply for it. SIMPLE 

[Alan K]

2600 didn't purchase the tag, it's not that they purchased then returned.  Requiring upfront purchase with refund if not drawn would solve 95% of that.

The people that were drawn for special permits likely don't purchase multi-season, at least nobody I know does.  If I draw a tag for a species with a bag limit of one for the year, I'm going to notch my tag on that special hunt.  I'd imagine a good chunk of the non-purchases are from holders of other special permits.  Then throw in drawing tags out of state with high success too and all of the sudden many people don't need multi-season, they'll already have full freezers.

[Clearcut]

2600 didn't purchase the tag, it's not that they purchased then returned.  Requiring upfront purchase with refund if not drawn would solve 95% of that.

The people that were drawn for special permits likely don't purchase multi-season, at least nobody I know does.  If I draw a tag for a species with a bag limit of one for the year, I'm going to notch my tag on that special hunt.  I'd imagine a good chunk of the non-purchases are from holders of other special permits.  Then throw in drawing tags out of state with high success too and all of the sudden many people don't need multi-season, they'll already have full freezers.

If you apply for a special permit for elk or deer that would
Mean you would have already have purchased your tags for both those and once you apply for hunts your locked in for whatever weapon type
And east or west side for elk?? So I’m not to sure many people our not buying them based on the draws here. Wouldn’t make any sense. You’d wanna buy elk prior to applications for elk especially so you could apply east or west and any weapon..

Out of state tags quite possibly play a roll in weather or
Not someone decides to do it though

[furbearer365]

Here's an idea.....make hunters choose between putting in for multi season or draw tags, but not both. So if you want more hunting time during general season, then put in for multiseason. If you want a chance at a special "quality" hunt, then put in for draw tags. Seems plenty fair

[emac]

2600 didn't purchase the tag, it's not that they purchased then returned.  Requiring upfront purchase with refund if not drawn would solve 95% of that.

The people that were drawn for special permits likely don't purchase multi-season, at least nobody I know does.  If I draw a tag for a species with a bag limit of one for the year, I'm going to notch my tag on that special hunt.  I'd imagine a good chunk of the non-purchases are from holders of other special permits.  Then throw in drawing tags out of state with high success too and all of the sudden many people don't need multi-season, they'll already have full freezers.

If you apply for a special permit for elk or deer that would
Mean you would have already have purchased your tags for both those and once you apply for hunts your locked in for whatever weapon type
And east or west side for elk?? So I’m not to sure many people our not buying them based on the draws here. Wouldn’t make any sense. You’d wanna buy elk prior to applications for elk especially so you could apply east or west and any weapon..

Out of state tags quite possibly play a roll in weather or
Not someone decides to do it though

Not the case.  I always apply for my hunts before I buy the multi season tags.  If I draw a special permit I don't buy the multi season tag, if I don't don't then I will buy the multi season tag.  Just exchange my original tag when I purchase the multi tag. 

Also I dont think many guys that are on the Eastside apply for Westside if they get drawn for multi season elk.  I am sure they use it to apply for different weapon types though.

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[NOCK NOCK]

2600 didn't purchase the tag, it's not that they purchased then returned.  Requiring upfront purchase with refund if not drawn would solve 95% of that.

The people that were drawn for special permits likely don't purchase multi-season, at least nobody I know does.  If I draw a tag for a species with a bag limit of one for the year, I'm going to notch my tag on that special hunt.  I'd imagine a good chunk of the non-purchases are from holders of other special permits.  Then throw in drawing tags out of state with high success too and all of the sudden many people don't need multi-season, they'll already have full freezers.

Well aware of how it works. Yes folks dont purchase then return.
Your second paragraph is mostly correct.........and that is just another example of why permits/draws are so messed up in WA st.
Make your hunts prioritized, and think about your fellow sportsman.

There are prolly 2600 folks out there who would have been thrilled to draw (originally) and never returned it.  I am one of those folks. I had a year I drew multi/colock any bull/cow......and kept them all. I LOVE to hunt, this gave me much more opportunity to KILL.
On years when I had a reasonable chance of going OOS I didn't apply for local stuff, general OTC worked.