hey the hoochie mama is a great backup call, if you have a open reed call or even mouth reed, you can use them both like two or more cows talking back and forth.... bulls love that. they recently came out with a calf call called the baby hoochie mama its green with the same push call meconism. I bought it and it makes great calf sounds... so I use a mouth reed, my hoochie in one hand and my baby hoochie in the other hand, I sound like a whole herd coming through the woods, im excited to see how the bulls respond!!!
elkman