Anyone know about Port Blakley installing gate at Winston Creek?

[turkeydancer]

Talked with Port Blakely over a month ago after scouting from Taidnipaum towards FSR 23, etc ... all gates locked due to trashers, vandals, forest product thefts, etc (scum buckets  ).

No problem with walk-ins, but no-one driving in or out (not even disabled or seniors) ... thought about boating down and biking once I got close, but boating in and out in the dark not a good idea ... blocking gates and getting towed (or worse), also not a good idea either ...

Bye Port Blakely ... hello Weyco, Rayonier, IP, Simpson, Boise Cascade, etc ...

[bobcat]

Can't a vehicle be parked in a way that doesn't block the gate?   

[sticky]

For most of my life I have lived about three miles from that gate and it makes me sick to think about all those years I spent camping, hunting, riding motorcycles, and shooting in the area, now not possible to do.  The gate has been there for quite a few years, but only in the last few has it been locked more than open.  It is tweakers and people that dump their garbage that force timber companies to shut down the area to everything but non-motorized traffic.  There are a few ok places to hunt within a couple miles of the gate, but in my opinion, the best locations are way too far to make hiking in a reasonable proposition.  For the first time in my life I actually have had to ask permission to hunt because all of the timber company land is closed.  As far as I know, the entrance to the 2000 and 3000 lines at Salmon Creek are the only local places open...and they might be closed too.  I haven't ventured that way just because I am sure it is flooded with people wanting a decent place to hunt.

You can bet Pork Flakey will want to sell hunting access to their property.  It won't be cheap either.

[SemperFidelis97]

I can understand the frustration about the locked gates, but to be honest I cannot blame them it is private land.  If we are not stewards of the land we are allowed to access we will see this more, and more.  We as outdoorsman need to make it a point to police ourselves, and unfortunately others as well since they can ruin it for us as well.  It really doesnt take that long to pick some trash on your way out of the woods nor is it that hard to remind the guy you see getting out of his truck blocking a gate that he needs to park to the side.  It is sad that some of the more elderly people will be locked out, but I do have to say personally I wont hunt an area that is easily accessed.  I believe if I can get in there without breaking a sweat so can the rest of the masses, and come opening day my secret honey hole wont be such a big secret anymore.

[Bigfoot]

YES THE LOCALS are the ones that dump there trash in there.

I think this should be revised slightly to, YES THE LOCAL SH!*BAGS are the ones that dump trash. Also as well as a lot of the NON-LOCAL hunters that come down.  I have seen way too many elk camps left absolutely filthy over the years. 

[THINK_N_ELK]

Is the DNR 2000 line open, up to camp nine and Weyco 500 gate? 

[bwhntr2819]

It's the 3000 line that goes to camp nine and it was open during early archery. Kind of a grey area to me though - the 3000 starts out on DNR land but then you see PBTF signs along the left side of the road when you're close to the camp nine intersection. There weren't any new gates. You could get all the way to the Weyco 550 gate. Maybe that'as why they haven't blocked access somewhere along the 3000/camp nine rd. I'm curious as to the theories that PBTF will start charging an access fee. Where does this thought come from? 

[Tony 270]

If that is the case there is a lot of Elk country that just got locked up.      

I see nothing wrong with that 

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I can understand the frustration about the locked gates, but to be honest I cannot blame them it is private land.  If we are not stewards of the land we are allowed to access we will see this more, and more.  We as outdoorsman need to make it a point to police ourselves, and unfortunately others as well since they can ruin it for us as well.  It really doesnt take that long to pick some trash on your way out of the woods nor is it that hard to remind the guy you see getting out of his truck blocking a gate that he needs to park to the side.  It is sad that some of the more elderly people will be locked out, but I do have to say personally I wont hunt an area that is easily accessed.  I believe if I can get in there without breaking a sweat so can the rest of the masses, and come opening day my secret honey hole wont be such a big secret anymore.

WELL SAID !

[THINK_N_ELK]

The group that I hunt with, always hauls out more trash then we take in. 

If that is the case there is a lot of Elk country that just got locked up.     

I see nothing wrong with that 

What I ment about a lot of area is from the 100-200 mainlines at Longbell rd. over Winters Mountain down to Taidnapam.

I prefer to hunt behind the gates as well.

[Cylvertip]

I just heard that there were no trespassing signs up on some of the gates too:dunno: