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Re: 22wmr legal for coyote hunting?
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2011, 09:11:46 PM »
I still dont see where anything says you can not use a pellet gun.
You're right.  It does not explicitly say you cannot use air rifles.  It also does not say you can't use spears, hand grenades, or lots of other implements that could kill an animal.  The law does state what you can legally use, and air rifles are not included.
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Re: 22wmr legal for coyote hunting?
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2011, 09:21:22 PM »
I still dont see where anything says you can not use a pellet gun.
You're right.  It does not explicitly say you cannot use air rifles.  It also does not say you can't use spears, hand grenades, or lots of other implements that could kill an animal.  The law does state what you can legally use, and air rifles are not included.

On "game" animals. 

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Re: 22wmr legal for coyote hunting?
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2011, 09:28:18 PM »
Lets just use the opossum as an example.   Says no permit is required to hunt or trap on the "living with wildlife" section of the WDFW site.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/opossums.html#status
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Legal Status
The opossum is unclassified and may be trapped or killed year-round; no permit is necessary. No permit is necessary for the use of live (cage) traps; however, a special trapping permit is required for the use of all traps other than live traps (RCW 77.15.192, 77.15.194; WAC 232-12-142).

If no permit is required and they are not on the list of "game" animals http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-12-007) then unless stated otherwise you can use any method you want to kill them.  Shovel, club, axe, pellet rifle and so on.  But there is a problem with this because under the small game summary it says you have to have a license to hunt them.  Any animal that requires a license is a "game" animal as you pointed out.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/summary_hunting_dates.html
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orest grouse*   4/12   Sept. 1-Dec. 31   Mixed Bag
Bobcat   None   Sept. 1-Mar. 15   Cannot be hunted with dogs
Pelt must sealed by WDFW
Raccoon   None   Sept. 1- Mar. 15   Closed on Long Island within Willapa National Wildlife Refuge
Fox   None   Sept. 1-Mar. 15   Closed within Mount Baker-Snoqualmie, Okanogan, Wenatchee, and Gifford Pinchot National Forests, and GMUs 407 and 1410
Coyote*   None   Year round   Hunting license required. Cannot be hunted with dogs
Cottontail rabbit and Snowshoe hare   5/15   Sept. 1-Mar. 15   
Crows   None   Oct. 1-Jan. 31   Crows in the act of depredation may be taken at any time.
Mountain beaver   None   Year round   Hunting license required.
European rabbit   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Gopher   None   Year Round   Except mazama pocket gophers
Gray and fox squirrels   None   Year Round   Except western gray squirrels
Ground squirrels   None   Year Round   Except golden-mantled and Washington ground squirrels
Moles   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Nutria   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Virginia opossum   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Porcupine   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Shrews   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Spotted skunk   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Striped skunk   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Voles   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Yellow-bellied marmot   None   Year Round   Hunting license required.
Note: Olympic and Hoary marmots are protected.

WHAT? that conflicts with what was just stated above.  They contradict each other and neither sites a WAC.

Now you see why it is confusing.
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Re: 22wmr legal for coyote hunting?
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2011, 01:00:16 PM »
and this surprises you Kain?  :dunno:
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Re: 22wmr legal for coyote hunting?
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2011, 01:35:58 PM »
and this surprises you Kain?  :dunno:

It only surprises me that people are still surprised that the regs are confusing.  :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: 22wmr legal for coyote hunting?
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2011, 02:41:00 PM »
Guess it goes to show we're all just guilty poachers!  :chuckle: I find most of the rules to be Idiocy.  :bash: If they cannot have straight easy to follow rules that no one can follow, what is the purpose? And with most of the crappy rules i sure the "original intent" is no longer relevent or even understood.  If i was king for a day I'd make the WDFW clarify their rules and give a 60 second explanation... and if they couldn't do it, can the rule.  :twocents:
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