shuttle "T" broadheads question

[trophyhunt]

I've heard nothing but good things about the shuttle t's, so I bought some yesturday.  My question is, Those of you who have also bought them do they feel dull out of the box?  I've bought broadheads before and they have all been razor sharp, these feel very dull.  Do I need to sharpen these brand new broadheads or is this part of there design?  Thanks

[OlympicElkJunkie]

three guys i hunt with use them and i guess i've had a similar observation ... not that they aren't sharp, just maybe slightly less sharp than the surgically sharp muzzy blades I'm used to. They have performed well though. I've seen six elk killed with them. One switched from Cabelas boraodheads because they would sometimes fall apart when they hit a rib, another switched from Montec after losing animals on well placed shots. So far so good on the shuttle "T". Nobody I know sharpens them. They treat them just like any other replaceable blade broadhead ... new blades on every hunting arrow.

[trophyhunt]

I figured there was nothing wrong with them, it just is weird that they are not super sharp like other heads.  Sounds like from your experiences with them they should be a good b head.  I just expected them to be a lot sharper.

[blackhorn]

My hunting partner and I both use them, and have noticed the same.  They are pretty easy to sharpen up with a broadhead sharpener.  I haven't had to buy replacement blades yet, but my buddy did last year and said that the replacements were much sharper.  Thought that was weird.

[trophyhunt]

that is weird, I guess it wouldn't hurt to sharpen them then.  The guy at cabelas told me they were designed to pull the hide in before the cut which he said increases the cutting area? not sure if that makes sense. I wonder if sharpening them changes the way the were built to work?  Probably a stupid question, why would sharpening hurt their function in anyway?

[MIKEXRAY]

I posted the same question last year when I bought some G5 strykers,  they seemed dull to me. Some guys said leave them & some said sharpen, I took a stone to them and sharpened them up ( even the point ). Seems like it can't hurt to be as sharp as possible, glad I touched mine up new out of the box. Mike

[huntnnw]

that is correct...they will punch a huge hole,almost looks like the hide was riped and penetration is phenominal

[carpsniperg2]

I have a little insight on this topic. When the company was sold to trophy taker. They were going to be addressing the issue. There were lots of reports of dull edges on brand new broadheads. So did you get the ones in the blue/green package or the new ones in the black and red pack's that say trophy taker on them? I have not been around the new ones. They are a good/solid head.

[Button Nubbs]

The new ones felt just like the old ones to me. Regardless of how sharp they are there is no denying that they do some major damage.

[trophyhunt]

I just bought them at cabela's on sat, not sure what color the package is I will check when I get home tonight.  You would think that sharpness would be high on the priority list as a manufacture?  I like what you guys are saying about them, can't wait to try them out!

[coachcw]

they are screw and shoot and very tough .

[Elkrunner]

I thought the same thing when I first tried them.  I haven't looked back, I used them solely.  My hunting partner and I use these and only these.  They have knocked everything down that we connected with.

[AKBowman]

that is weird, I guess it wouldn't hurt to sharpen them then.  The guy at cabelas told me they were designed to pull the hide in before the cut which he said increases the cutting area? not sure if that makes sense. I wonder if sharpening them changes the way the were built to work?  Probably a stupid question, why would sharpening hurt their function in anyway?

That is exactly correct, they are designed to pull the hide in. More to do with the "blunt" design of the braodhead rather than being dull. Because the broadhead is shorter/flatter than say, a muzzy type head they push material in or create a pocket before cutting. This enables the broadhead to create a larger (much larger) hole than a head with laid back blades like a muzzy. The draw back is it takes a lot more K.E to achieve penetration. For most modern compounds on shots 30 yards and in you can still blow the arrow right through an elk size animal with the Shuttle T's but when you get to 40 it can be a different story. Good news is even if you dont get full penetration at the longer yardarges you get one heck of a hole and good blood loss.
I like the shuttle T's but I shoot a little bit of an older bow (although still fast) I.M.O with my setup pentration and cutting on contact is more important than wound channel size.

[CJ-5]

I thought they seem a little dull too out of the box, but have not had any problems.  I have killed two elk with them and think they are great broad heads.  They are very tough!

[trophyhunt]

They are in the black package and it says trophy taker on the box. great comment's guy's and thanks a lot for the input. I'm sold, it sounds like I have made a good choice.

[carpsniperg2]

Yes those are the new ones after the company sold, they are supposed to be a little more sharp and have a little better edge on them. I had a bunch of them and sold them to todd he has put them to good use. I have shot probably 90% of the broadheads on the market that are legal here. They are in my top 3 faves. 1:montec 2:shuttle t 3: buzzcut/stinger.

[huntnnw]

I put 2 completely thru a moose at 60...also extremely accurate..I shoot mine to 80 the same as my field points

[trophyhunt]

That's good to know, I think I bought the right one's! Thanks again for the input.

[bowhuntersd]

I used them for a few seasons and didn't like the results I was getting out of the compared to others on the market for the same price. They did penitrate well, pass throughed on every animal I harvested. But the blades and fairels didn't hold up to the standards they claimed. They claim that the design of them is suppose to create a larger wound, they don't, the entry and exist were the exact size of the broadhead. The blades don't hold up to even missed shots in the dirt, they chip easy. The fairels bend easy as well. I spent hundreds on broadheads just to toss in the garbage. I don't recommend them......

[trophyhunt]

Well I don't know what to think about your info, I've seen nothing but good reports on these and now your response is quite a bit on the opposite side of the spectrum.  I guess I'll just have to try them out since I bought 3 and see what happens, hopefully I don't find out the hard way.  I just got to believe if I make the right shot that they will do there job. Thanks for your response.

[blackhorn]

You will always find haters and lovers of everything we use and do. Take everything for what its worth and make an informed decision.  Thats about all you can do.

[alwinearcher]

that is weird, I guess it wouldn't hurt to sharpen them then.  The guy at cabelas told me they were designed to pull the hide in before the cut which he said increases the cutting area? not sure if that makes sense. I wonder if sharpening them changes the way the were built to work?  Probably a stupid question, why would sharpening hurt their function in anyway?

That is exactly correct, they are designed to pull the hide in. More to do with the "blunt" design of the braodhead rather than being dull. Because the broadhead is shorter/flatter than say, a muzzy type head they push material in or create a pocket before cutting. This enables the broadhead to create a larger (much larger) hole than a head with laid back blades like a muzzy. The draw back is it takes a lot more K.E to achieve penetration. For most modern compounds on shots 30 yards and in you can still blow the arrow right through an elk size animal with the Shuttle T's but when you get to 40 it can be a different story. Good news is even if you dont get full penetration at the longer yardarges you get one heck of a hole and good blood loss.
I like the shuttle T's but I shoot a little bit of an older bow (although still fast) I.M.O with my setup pentration and cutting on contact is more important than wound channel size.

I used to worry about the penetration on them with less poundage also. Until my wife shot a zebra with her bow at 46 pounds with a 25" draw. She didnt get a pass through but it was a double lung and it died in less then 100 yards.

They are awesome broadheads! I have done some tests with them shooting them through plywood and such and they always amaze me!

[trophyhunt]

Love it.  Thanks agian for the info.