Where do we go from here? (With wolf management)

[haugenna]

Weakness-

A democratic tree hugging voting population.

[Special T]

Unfortunately  SSS won't even make a blip on the radar.. It might make a differnce in some small regional areas where there are more people that think the same way...  but overall can't make a big difference. If a liberal hunting,trappin arial gunning season in ID cant do it you think a few law breakers can?

[CedarPants]

Special T - I like the way you are approaching this (and I just wrapped up a year long SWOT project at work, so this thought process is drilled into my head)

Way I see it, we have 2 choices.  We either throw in the towel and accept that everything is a lost cause, or we look at it exactly how you are looking at it.  I think it would be a wise idea if we took this SWOT concept and actually completed a full analysis and implemented a formal plan.  I'd be willing to be a part of something like this if we could organize it

[wraithen]

Killbilly is running a tangent on how to track and account for bp's accurately. I like the always moving forward attitude of some members here! 

[Jack Diamond]

So I assume every one knows that the only way the wolves were brought under control in the first go-round was poison.
evidently we can legislate the wolve's back across the state line?
even if the state said to shoot them all , it would never happen, ie the reference to Idaho. and Montana can not even reach their quota.                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                     
the gate has been opened, and 3 years have been devoured debating the issue, they are here and will remain.
and they will multiply, and they will at some point allow a "quota" hunt and possibly trapping which will have a minimal effect.
and more time and effort and money will be spent debating the issues, and nothing will change except hunter behavior.
until wolves are a threat in suburbia all will be fine. guess we will see if I'm right, hope not, but recent history in the other states dictates otherwise.

State won't even issue a permit for a stupid Coyote Contest in a timely manner.

[seth30]

So I assume every one knows that the only way the wolves were brought under control in the first go-round was poison.
evidently we can legislate the wolve's back across the state line?
even if the state said to shoot them all , it would never happen, ie the reference to Idaho. and Montana can not even reach their quota.                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                     
the gate has been opened, and 3 years have been devoured debating the issue, they are here and will remain.
and they will multiply, and they will at some point allow a "quota" hunt and possibly trapping which will have a minimal effect.
and more time and effort and money will be spent debating the issues, and nothing will change except hunter behavior.
until wolves are a threat in suburbia all will be fine. guess we will see if I'm right, hope not, but recent history in the other states dictates otherwise.

Im sure the blame of that will be placed on everything but the truth

[wraithen]

WA is different. They would NEVER allow us to trap wolves.

[Special T]

well JD i would never advocate something illegal, especially online. It would be horrible if a pack suddenly ended up at greenlake to harass bunny huggers. 

wraithen they actually have trapped them with padded jaws so that they are unhurt. only for "documentation"

For the record I am unsure that anything we do will  make a huge difference. the one thing i do know is that we all come from differnet walks of life and because we are Agile  we can use that to our advantage.

[Little Dave]

I'd like the ESA to be scrapped.  Our state's list of extirpated species called "Endangered Species" should also be scrapped.

A creative illustration of how this might come about is to petition the government to add smallpox to the Endangered Species List.  Our state usually follows the lead of the federal listing.  Then we could have meetings to form a smallpox management plan, debate natural transmission or translocation, then make informational brochures to teach folks how to cope with it.

[Special T]

$$$ is the root of the ESA issu. I would kind like/think it ironic if we hunters could tap into the same funding that the anti's use to fight us... some of that is grant money some of it is lawsuits...

[rebal69972]

we fight this the best way we can and wait. in 5-10 years the government will be begging the hunters and trappers to kill the wolves. we have to look to our neighbors and see how they handle the same problem if they can if not well the rednecks that everyone like to bitch about we have the plan

[wence5]

we fight this the best way we can and wait. in 5-10 years the government will be begging the hunters and trappers to kill the wolves. we have to look to our neighbors and see how they handle the same problem if they can if not well the rednecks that everyone like to bitch about we have the plan

Unfortunately it will be too late by then.