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Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« on: December 07, 2011, 07:06:00 PM »
I was reading a post sent to Guy Eastman and read this.

‎"Guy, I read your article "The Predator Death Spiral" and could not agree with you more. I spent 36+ years as a district wildlife biologist in Washington state (retired in January) and have seen the very thing you are talking about occur in Idaho. Some state wildife agencies are hiring many biologists that do not hunt, and, in fact, are "anti-predator hunting". At an agency meeting approx. 8 years ago, a program manager asked a group of 30 biologists, "how many of you support hunting predators?" Guess how many raised their hands in support of hunting predators: 3 out of 30! Our diversity division (non-game program) is in charge of wolf "management" and put on a "wolf training session" for agency biologists and wildlife agents about 3 years ago in Spokane, Wash. Do you know who the diversity division partnered with to put on this training session: Defenders of Wildlife! The very group that files lawsuits to stop the delisting wolves. I once herd one of our head program managers make the statement that predators are like native Americans, they get their deer/elk first, before hunters. I have also heard a district biologist state that deer/elk are wolf and cougar food, and if there are none left for hunters, so be it. Our big game herds are in more trouble than hunters realize, and by the time they wake up it may be too late! There is significant resistance in some wildlife agencies, especially in non-game programs, to manage predator numbers, it is not "politically correct!" Like many political issues the predator management pendulum swings to far one way (bounty days), then too far the other way (predator protectionism). Sound, common sense predator management seems to be strongly resisted in some wildlife agencies. Keep up the good fight!" -Name Withheld for Obvious Reasons.



http://www.defendersblog.org/2011/12/washington-wildlife-commission-approves-wolf-recovery-plan/

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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 07:22:32 PM »
I so believe it.  I was watching a youtube video the other day about washington wildlife biologists (the cougar bios) and they were petting the cougar and calling it 'sweetie' while it was drugged. 

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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 07:31:08 PM »
Great post Gringo, so glad you found that so people can see the dire straights we truly are in on wildlife management.  :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 07:32:34 PM »
Kudos to the retired biologist who had the balls to speak his mind.   :hello:
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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 08:04:27 PM »
In 1993 I took my cougar down town to get sealed The two guys siad wait outside. They made me wait over a hour.They siasd why did you kill it. I said becuase i had a permit .They were real jerk's to me. This will not end here. They want to do away with night hunting. Rick 
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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 08:07:09 PM »
I believe it to the core.  Nice to hear someone else say it, someone that was there.

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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 08:43:43 PM »
Thanks for putting that posts up Gringo.  Great job.    :tup:   :hello:

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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 08:47:39 PM »
Not really shocking. Look at the side of the story kids get in school. It keeps progressing. Hunters seem to be good natured people for the most part so we're easy to infiltrate.
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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 09:43:42 PM »
we need to keep voicing our opinions, the wolves are here and they arent going away. great post

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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 09:53:11 AM »
 And  WTF is this?
 Shouldn't the ecology Dept fund these issues and mailings?



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The Shrub-Steppe and Grassland Restoration Manual for the Columbia River Basin was recently completed by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW), in cooperation with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and with funding from the Bonneville Power Administration (BPA).

The idea, says compiler and co-author Richard Tveten, a WDFW biologist with the Lands Program in Olympia headquarters, is to share knowledge gained by both private and public land owners and managers and "capitalize on the experience of others."

The manual, available at http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01330/ , provides specific recommendations relating to weed control, site preparation, species selection, planting, scheduling and equipment.  Tools include a seedling identification guide, a seed mix calculator, and seed drill calibrator to help plant the right amount of desired species and recognize them when they sprout.

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"The definition we use for 'restoration' is the process of assisting the recovery of an ecosystem that has been degraded, damaged, or destroyed," Tveten said. "Restoration attempts to return an ecosystem to its historic trajectory. Restoration projects require no attendance once they are mature."

Tveten said that while full restoration may be ideal, practical limitations to obtain or successfully grow native plants, exclude invasive species, or allow the return of historic processes often results in more of a "rehabilitation" project.

"We define 'rehabilitation' as the reparation of ecosystem processes, productivity and services," he said. "It's not necessarily a return to pre-existing conditions and it may require some attendance once plants are mature."

Tveten says the need for the manual was recognized when veterans of restoration projects, like former WDFW land manager Jerry Benson, approached retirement.

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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 10:02:42 AM »
our money hard at work  :dunno:

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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 09:36:09 PM »
If you like this you should love WDFW hydraulic permit administration.

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Re: Defenders of Wildlife and Washington wolves
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2011, 09:52:32 PM »
 :yeah:
I've thought the ones that get it worse than fishermen or hunters are probably the gold panners.  If I remember correctly, gold panning season is shorter in my area than deer season.
WDFW=Washington Department of Fees and Wolves...

 


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