Has WDFW revealed serious fault with Resource Allocation?

[Curly]

Ok, so the bottom line is:  WDFW is increasing the number of Multi-Season permits..........so that means that WDFW is essentially admitting that resource allocation was a bad idea? 

I don't think it shows that there is serious fault with resource allocation.  I think it just shows that WDFW will "pimp-out" our wildlife if they feel the price is right.  They are willing to allow x-amount of hunters to hunt with multiple weapons in order for the department to make more money.  I think they are downplaying the affect on game populations with the increase of multi-permits in order to justify the increase in permit numbers so that they will get a revenue increase.

If they were to reduce the price of the multi-permit and allow unlimited amount of multi-permits, then they would be admitting that they were wrong with resource allocation.  In this economy, not too many people can afford to pay the price of these permits. 

I'd be interested to see if a WDFW biologist will admit that removing resource allocation would have no affect on season lengths or timing of seasons.  Removing resource allocation should increase hunter success rates and thus, shouldn't season lengths then need to be adjusted accordingly?  Or has this game "management" and season setting by the bio's not really been management at all for the last 25 years?

One thing I do know, is that I do hate WDFW more and more everyday.  They stood silent when the initiatives of the mid 90's screwed over hunters and trappers, they continue to encourage high populations of predators, and they started the stupid category system of permits a few years ago, and now they are pimping out game for money with over-priced mufti-season permits, oh and the lack of muzzleloader units open crowds blackpowder guys into small areas.  (I am not quite ready to be mad at them over resource allocation though, but I think I may almost be in that camp too.)

Back in the 80's there was a lot more county that hunters could spread-out in to go hunting.  Almost all of the timber company lands were accessible to driving; they had very little gated roads.  You used to be able to drive all over Vail, or simpson land out by Elma and McCleary, or Weyerhauser land down by Silver Lake.  Now all those areas are gated and it crowds hunters close to the gates.  I'm not sure that the hunting areas that are left can handle more pressure by eliminating resource allocation.

 

[bearpaw]

The whole comment and issue makes it so obvious that WDFW is all about the money. I think the state could save some money by abolishing the WDFW and let the counties manage their own wildlife.

I have more faith in county officials managing wildlife where I live. 

[Mr Mykiss]

A very intriguing read for sure. I haven't had nearly the experience hunting in WA as most people and I've only recently (the last 5 years) started to make hunting my #1 addiction. I have no personal reference for "the good old days"  but I think WA is a great state for hunting and if I'm thinking that now, what would I think about the better hunting that flourished years ago??!!
I'm wondering if people/hunters are getting too far down the line (in years) to even remember the management practices of way back when hunting was easier/better/etc...  

[Special T]

Increasing multi-season permits because it increases opportunity but doesn't affect herds means one of 2 things
1 The WDFW manages use a Ouija board to figure out population estimates
2 Means they have been screwing us for the last few years

If you try and figure out WHY the WDFW is doing something, and take $$$ out of the equasion, you would think you were dealing with a crazy person. 

[Bob33]

If you try and figure out WHY the WDFW is doing something, and take $$$ out of the equasion, you would think you were dealing with a crazy person. 

Thats funny and sad at the same time.

[Jack Diamond]

obviously they could have a hydro-plane entered in the Columbia Cup races named Miss Management!!

[Gringo31]

How often do we see WDFW take something away, then "give it back" with a fee?  In the end, we are still allowed to do things kinda like we used to, but we just have pay more for what we already had.

[bobcat]

How often do we see WDFW take something away, then "give it back" with a fee?  In the end, we are still allowed to do things kinda like we used to, but we just have pay more for what we already had.

Isn't that true with most things in life? Just think of what your girlfriend used to let you do for free, now you're married and look how much you're paying now.   

[CAMPMEAT]

if managers of WDFW cannot publicly state there position on  voter intiatives,that will pro or con affect wildlife in this state, just what the hell is their Job??

Their job is to make big wages that we pay for and screw the hunters..............typical.

[CAMPMEAT]

obviously they could have a hydro-plane entered in the Columbia Cup races named Miss Management!!

....................but, they'd have issue themselves a special permit since it's a contest.