I am a die hard Swaro guy. Have a pair of Swarovision 12x50s and an 80 HD spotter. I don't like the ergonomics of the EL range, they didn't use HD glass.... internal ballistic software is a joke, the inclinometer is nice, but not $2900 nice. A heavy pair of Swarobright els is what I see. We waited a long time for this? Kind of a bust. I'll keep my Zeiss RF 10x45.