Post by: appyacres on November 09, 2013, 07:02:26 PM
So as I am driving out of this area I see 6 other rigs with green presents from the WDFW officer.
First time I heard this . . . nice guy though.
Post by: bobcat on November 09, 2013, 07:08:29 PM
By the way, it's "discover" pass, not discovery.
Post by: appyacres on November 09, 2013, 07:13:04 PM
Post by: appyacres on November 09, 2013, 07:17:03 PM
Post by: bigtex on November 09, 2013, 07:22:43 PM
Post by: Tman on November 09, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
Im sure they have better things to spend their time working on.
Post by: bigtex on November 09, 2013, 07:30:39 PM
Im sure they have better things to spend their time working on.
I know what you are saying but here is the thing. WDFW got funding for about 2 Officers from the Discover Pass for enforcement of the Discover Pass. WDFW Officers work 171 hours a month, not 160. So essentially, WDFW Officers must combine for 342 hours of Discover Pass enforcement EVERY month statewide.
WDFW has to report to the legislature on this enforcement. Would look bad if WDFW gets 2 officers for Discover Pass enforcement, but are not doing it!
Post by: bobcat on November 09, 2013, 09:16:46 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on November 09, 2013, 09:24:19 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 09, 2013, 09:26:10 PM
I hope less and less people buy the damn thing, hopefully it cost more than it brings in! I've never bought one, never will.
With Weyerhaeuser going to permit only access on their tree farms, along with other timber companies, the Discover pass sales will only be increasing.
Post by: haulinbass on November 09, 2013, 09:52:50 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on November 09, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
I have had enough.
Post by: bigtex on November 09, 2013, 10:27:47 PM
But guess what.. the fine money goes into the Discover Pass account! So those who are trying to "screw the man" are actually benefiting the state more by getting ticketed!
Post by: billythekidrock on November 10, 2013, 07:25:49 AM
Look at it this way, you can either pay the $30+ for the pass. Or pay the $99 fine for parking without the pass, or $203 for driving without it.
But guess what.. the fine money goes into the Discover Pass account! So those who are trying to "screw the man" are actually benefiting the state more by getting ticketed!
Is this something new? Last I heard was that the fines did not go back to anything associated with the DP.
Post by: bigtex on November 10, 2013, 08:41:19 AM
Look at it this way, you can either pay the $30+ for the pass. Or pay the $99 fine for parking without the pass, or $203 for driving without it.
But guess what.. the fine money goes into the Discover Pass account! So those who are trying to "screw the man" are actually benefiting the state more by getting ticketed!
Is this something new? Last I heard was that the fines did not go back to anything associated with the DP.
Somewhat new. The legislature changed it in winter 2012 and it took effect in summer 2012. State Parks was the only agency that testified on the change, and they were against it. So now of every ticket written for the DP, 84% of it goes to Parks, 8% to DNR, and 8% to WDFW.
Post by: TMortensen on November 10, 2013, 09:13:15 AM
Post by: PolarBear on November 10, 2013, 09:17:17 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 10, 2013, 09:21:36 AM
Look at it this way, you can either pay the $30+ for the pass. Or pay the $99 fine for parking without the pass, or $203 for driving without it.
But guess what.. the fine money goes into the Discover Pass account! So those who are trying to "screw the man" are actually benefiting the state more by getting ticketed!
$203 driving without it? :dunno:
Post by: bigtex on November 10, 2013, 09:24:21 AM
Look at it this way, you can either pay the $30+ for the pass. Or pay the $99 fine for parking without the pass, or $203 for driving without it.
But guess what.. the fine money goes into the Discover Pass account! So those who are trying to "screw the man" are actually benefiting the state more by getting ticketed!
$203 driving without it? :dunno:
Yes.
The $99 is a parking citation. The $203 for driving is a natural resource infraction.
Just some history, prior to the DP when there was just the WDFW pass, it was a natural resource infraction part of the fish and wildlife code. So the "penalty" is not as bad now since it is only a parking citation, and not a natural resource infraction.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 10, 2013, 09:27:14 AM
Look at it this way, you can either pay the $30+ for the pass. Or pay the $99 fine for parking without the pass, or $203 for driving without it.
But guess what.. the fine money goes into the Discover Pass account! So those who are trying to "screw the man" are actually benefiting the state more by getting ticketed!
$203 driving without it? :dunno:
Yes.
The $99 is a parking citation. The $203 for driving is a natural resource infraction.
Just some history, prior to the DP when there was just the WDFW pass, it was a natural resource infraction part of the fish and wildlife code. So the "penalty" is not as bad now since it is only a parking citation, and not a natural resource infraction.
So you can't even drive thru state land without one? Like let's say Sinlehekin game range area?
Post by: jrebel on November 10, 2013, 09:34:04 AM
Post by: bigtex on November 10, 2013, 09:39:19 AM
Look at it this way, you can either pay the $30+ for the pass. Or pay the $99 fine for parking without the pass, or $203 for driving without it.
But guess what.. the fine money goes into the Discover Pass account! So those who are trying to "screw the man" are actually benefiting the state more by getting ticketed!
$203 driving without it? :dunno:
Yes.
The $99 is a parking citation. The $203 for driving is a natural resource infraction.
Just some history, prior to the DP when there was just the WDFW pass, it was a natural resource infraction part of the fish and wildlife code. So the "penalty" is not as bad now since it is only a parking citation, and not a natural resource infraction.
So you can't even drive thru state land without one? Like let's say Sinlehekin game range area?
The only exemption for driving took effect this year and it is "When operating on a road managed by the department of natural resources or the department of fish and wildlife, including a forest or land management road, that is not blocked by a gate."
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2013, 09:45:35 AM
Post by: bigtex on November 10, 2013, 09:52:06 AM
Okay, that's what I thought. So someone could go on a drive through Capitol Forest without a pass. You just would not be able to stop and get out of the vehicle.
As of this year yes. Unless its a gated area.
Post by: akirkland on November 10, 2013, 03:13:34 PM
So signs are posted and you were mad you got cited? :dunno:
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I read his post twice to make sure but Im not seeing anything that would make you think he was "mad'. Kinda makes you guilty of putting words in his mouth. But thats cool. I look forward to the info you share with us.
Post by: jrebel on November 10, 2013, 03:37:32 PM
Post by: bigtex on November 10, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
Pretty sure it was implied.....who likes getting a ticket. In his original post he states he didn't think he needed one. A few post later he states he knew better. That tells me he is very deserving of the ticket for trying to beat the system.
:yeah:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 10, 2013, 03:51:23 PM
I was told by the DNR cop over in my neck of the woods, that all the DNR land has been posted through the DNR website and that's all DNR had to do. Basically, he said that DNR land does not have to have a physical posting at each area. True of false ?
Post by: bigtex on November 10, 2013, 04:02:28 PM
bigtex,
I was told by the DNR cop over in my neck of the woods, that all the DNR land has been posted through the DNR website and that's all DNR had to do. Basically, he said that DNR land does not have to have a physical posting at each area. True of false ?
Well in reality the requirement of lands to be posted has been eliminated.
When the Discover Pass was created some DNR lands required it and others did not, as a result the legislature required DNR to post those areas it was required.
Then the legislature said ALL DNR lands required the pass, so in their mind, why should there be a need to post the lands requiring the pass if all the lands need it?
So the DNR Officer you talked to is correct.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 10, 2013, 04:17:41 PM
bigtex,
I was told by the DNR cop over in my neck of the woods, that all the DNR land has been posted through the DNR website and that's all DNR had to do. Basically, he said that DNR land does not have to have a physical posting at each area. True of false ?
Well in reality the requirement of lands to be posted has been eliminated.
When the Discover Pass was created some DNR lands required it and others did not, as a result the legislature required DNR to post those areas it was required.
Then the legislature said ALL DNR lands required the pass, so in their mind, why should there be a need to post the lands requiring the pass if all the lands need it?
So the DNR Officer you talked to is correct.
But what about the no gates rule? :bash:
Post by: bigtex on November 10, 2013, 04:35:54 PM
bigtex,
I was told by the DNR cop over in my neck of the woods, that all the DNR land has been posted through the DNR website and that's all DNR had to do. Basically, he said that DNR land does not have to have a physical posting at each area. True of false ?
Well in reality the requirement of lands to be posted has been eliminated.
When the Discover Pass was created some DNR lands required it and others did not, as a result the legislature required DNR to post those areas it was required.
Then the legislature said ALL DNR lands required the pass, so in their mind, why should there be a need to post the lands requiring the pass if all the lands need it?
So the DNR Officer you talked to is correct.
But what about the no gates rule? :bash:
What about it?
If you are driving on DNR/WDFW lands with no gate you don't need it as long as you are driving. As soon as you park you need it!
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 10, 2013, 04:40:09 PM
Post by: appyacres on November 10, 2013, 06:45:39 PM
What I said was, I knew better relating to the Discovery vs Discover wording, so kindly pointed out.
A hard lesson learned on my part.
I tried to explain this whole thing to a few different people to save them some $$$ but they argued with me about needing a Discover Pass. I tried, and don't wish the same fate on anyone...
So I guess that makes me about even on the discover Pass. The $99 fine is reduced to $59 with proof of pass purchase within 15 days of the citation. The $35 for the pass is actually cheaper than if I would have bought one the last 2 years. I'll buy another one next year because I am not trying to "beat the system" as was pointed out earlier...
Happy Hunting to all, and calm down. It's only money...
Post by: rsarkks on November 12, 2013, 08:46:34 AM
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/RecreationEducation/Topics/OpenClosureNotices/Pages/amr_statewide_rec.aspx (http://www.dnr.wa.gov/RecreationEducation/Topics/OpenClosureNotices/Pages/amr_statewide_rec.aspx)
The Yacolt Burn State Forest (Tarbell area) is noted on this site. Hope this helps.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 12, 2013, 08:51:02 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 12, 2013, 09:55:35 AM
Post by: bigtex on November 12, 2013, 10:07:54 AM
So, are they going to enforce it at all the feeding stations this year? Because last year I was there and only a handful of vehicles had them out of the 200 hundred trying to park there? I seen the volunteers at Oak Creek trying to tell some people about the pass but they weren't to receptive. Lot of money right there.......
They enforced it last year. Last year there was even a State Park Ranger writing tickets at the feed station. So yes, State Park Rangers writing tickets at WDFW areas, and YES this is legal.
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 12, 2013, 10:11:24 AM
So, are they going to enforce it at all the feeding stations this year? Because last year I was there and only a handful of vehicles had them out of the 200 hundred trying to park there? I seen the volunteers at Oak Creek trying to tell some people about the pass but they weren't to receptive. Lot of money right there.......
They enforced it last year. Last year there was even a State Park Ranger writing tickets at the feed station. So yes, State Park Rangers writing tickets at WDFW areas, and YES this is legal.
:tup: hope they hit it hard again this year then, especially at oak creek areas since I heard alot of people saying expletive things to the volunteers there. I tossed in my :twocents: for the volunteers and a nice conversation took place several times. Needless to say, lot of money there on any given day waiting to be collected. :tup:
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 12, 2013, 10:13:06 AM
Post by: Bookworm007 on November 12, 2013, 10:23:31 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 12, 2013, 10:28:36 AM
Let me clear up a little misconception here... I was not mad, just didn't realize the WDFW tag was not valid for the area (DNR land) that I was in. I did not know I needed the Discover Pass.
What I said was, I knew better relating to the Discovery vs Discover wording, so kindly pointed out.
A hard lesson learned on my part.
I tried to explain this whole thing to a few different people to save them some $$$ but they argued with me about needing a Discover Pass. I tried, and don't wish the same fate on anyone...
So I guess that makes me about even on the discover Pass. The $99 fine is reduced to $59 with proof of pass purchase within 15 days of the citation. The $35 for the pass is actually cheaper than if I would have bought one the last 2 years. I'll buy another one next year because I am not trying to "beat the system" as was pointed out earlier...
Happy Hunting to all, and calm down. It's only money...
Thanks for the warning then. :tup:
Post by: Taco280AI on November 12, 2013, 10:50:38 AM
Hunting license $$$
Deer/elk/bear...whatever tag $$$
want to actually go and hunt - need a pass $$$
want to hunt timber - need a pass $$$
Fishing $$$
Salmon $$$
fish a certain area $$$
pass for certain area $$$
is annoying how you can't just buy your license and tag and go hunt or fish, need two or three add-ons for everything
Post by: bigtex on November 12, 2013, 10:57:05 AM
I'm going to have to spend some time in the regs if I get posted at Lewis.
Hunting license $$$
Deer/elk/bear...whatever tag $$$
want to actually go and hunt - need a pass $$$
want to hunt timber - need a pass $$$
Fishing $$$
Salmon $$$
fish a certain area $$$
pass for certain area $$$
is annoying how you can't just buy your license and tag and go hunt or fish, need two or three add-ons for everything
Welcome to west coast hunting. California is even worse :twocents:
Post by: Moose Master on November 12, 2013, 04:22:50 PM
Post by: Alan K on November 12, 2013, 08:11:07 PM
The pass is great and they get the money in there account. Ass, gas, or grass it take's money and time to build roads, toilet's, patrol and a whole lot of other items that we don't see done. Could be like Texas where most of the property is private and you pay to enter. Time for everyone to look at what we have and maintain it. When my kids use the property they get the same speech and I expect them to share that with the next generation to come along. Public property is all of our home's and we pay to maintain our own home's this is no different.
Don't want to take this thread in another direction, but I think the main gripe over this thing (mine included) is that only a very small fraction of the DP's income goes to the land/area that 90% of the money comes from. Most people wouldn't have a problem with paying a recreational access fee if the money went towards road maintenance, garbage pickup, etc. in the areas that we use the pass. The problem is the pass is basically a subsidy for state parks that the public doesn't want to pay for. We don't have a problem paying for something we get something in return for.
Post by: logger on November 12, 2013, 08:42:09 PM
I'm with alan, my co. is working on 3 different state forest right now and I'm not aware of any improvement in any way as a result of the discover pass.The pass is great and they get the money in there account. Ass, gas, or grass it take's money and time to build roads, toilet's, patrol and a whole lot of other items that we don't see done. Could be like Texas where most of the property is private and you pay to enter. Time for everyone to look at what we have and maintain it. When my kids use the property they get the same speech and I expect them to share that with the next generation to come along. Public property is all of our home's and we pay to maintain our own home's this is no different.
Don't want to take this thread in another direction, but I think the main gripe over this thing (mine included) is that only a very small fraction of the DP's income goes to the land/area that 90% of the money comes from. Most people wouldn't have a problem with paying a recreational access fee if the money went towards road maintenance, garbage pickup, etc. in the areas that we use the pass. The problem is the pass is basically a subsidy for state parks that the public doesn't want to pay for. We don't have a problem paying for something we get something in return for.
Post by: sled on November 12, 2013, 08:50:37 PM
I Agree, But What A Way To Chase Off People That Are Curious And Don't Have A Clue About The Feeding Areas.So, are they going to enforce it at all the feeding stations this year? Because last year I was there and only a handful of vehicles had them out of the 200 hundred trying to park there? I seen the volunteers at Oak Creek trying to tell some people about the pass but they weren't to receptive. Lot of money right there.......
They enforced it last year. Last year there was even a State Park Ranger writing tickets at the feed station. So yes, State Park Rangers writing tickets at WDFW areas, and YES this is legal.
:tup: hope they hit it hard again this year then, especially at oak creek areas since I heard alot of people saying expletive things to the volunteers there. I tossed in my :twocents: for the volunteers and a nice conversation took place several times. Needless to say, lot of money there on any given day waiting to be collected. :tup:
If The State Can Defer A License For A Year To A New Hunter That Should Be The Case For A Viewer Too?
Post by: bobcat on November 12, 2013, 10:30:18 PM
I Agree, But What A Way To Chase Off People That Are Curious And Don't Have A Clue About The Feeding Areas.So, are they going to enforce it at all the feeding stations this year? Because last year I was there and only a handful of vehicles had them out of the 200 hundred trying to park there? I seen the volunteers at Oak Creek trying to tell some people about the pass but they weren't to receptive. Lot of money right there.......
They enforced it last year. Last year there was even a State Park Ranger writing tickets at the feed station. So yes, State Park Rangers writing tickets at WDFW areas, and YES this is legal.
:tup: hope they hit it hard again this year then, especially at oak creek areas since I heard alot of people saying expletive things to the volunteers there. I tossed in my :twocents: for the volunteers and a nice conversation took place several times. Needless to say, lot of money there on any given day waiting to be collected. :tup:
If The State Can Defer A License For A Year To A New Hunter That Should Be The Case For A Viewer Too?
The state defers the hunter education requirement for a year, not the hunting license. This allows a person to purchase a hunting license where they normally would not be able to do so.
Post by: sled on November 12, 2013, 10:40:03 PM
Yes Your Right sorry :bash:I Agree, But What A Way To Chase Off People That Are Curious And Don't Have A Clue About The Feeding Areas.So, are they going to enforce it at all the feeding stations this year? Because last year I was there and only a handful of vehicles had them out of the 200 hundred trying to park there? I seen the volunteers at Oak Creek trying to tell some people about the pass but they weren't to receptive. Lot of money right there.......
They enforced it last year. Last year there was even a State Park Ranger writing tickets at the feed station. So yes, State Park Rangers writing tickets at WDFW areas, and YES this is legal.
:tup: hope they hit it hard again this year then, especially at oak creek areas since I heard alot of people saying expletive things to the volunteers there. I tossed in my :twocents: for the volunteers and a nice conversation took place several times. Needless to say, lot of money there on any given day waiting to be collected. :tup:
If The State Can Defer A License For A Year To A New Hunter That Should Be The Case For A Viewer Too?
The state defers the hunter education requirement for a year, not the hunting license. This allows a person to purchase a hunting license where they normally would not be able to do so.
Post by: billythekidrock on November 13, 2013, 04:55:40 AM
The pass is great and they get the money in there account. Ass, gas, or grass it take's money and time to build roads, toilet's, patrol and a whole lot of other items that we don't see done. Could be like Texas where most of the property is private and you pay to enter. Time for everyone to look at what we have and maintain it. When my kids use the property they get the same speech and I expect them to share that with the next generation to come along. Public property is all of our home's and we pay to maintain our own home's this is no different.
Don't want to take this thread in another direction, but I think the main gripe over this thing (mine included) is that only a very small fraction of the DP's income goes to the land/area that 90% of the money comes from. Most people wouldn't have a problem with paying a recreational access fee if the money went towards road maintenance, garbage pickup, etc. in the areas that we use the pass. The problem is the pass is basically a subsidy for state parks that the public doesn't want to pay for. We don't have a problem paying for something we get something in return for.
I agree%!
I wish they split the funds equally.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 13, 2013, 05:49:55 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on November 13, 2013, 06:09:35 AM
The pass is great and they get the money in there account. Ass, gas, or grass it take's money and time to build roads, toilet's, patrol and a whole lot of other items that we don't see done. Could be like Texas where most of the property is private and you pay to enter. Time for everyone to look at what we have and maintain it. When my kids use the property they get the same speech and I expect them to share that with the next generation to come along. Public property is all of our home's and we pay to maintain our own home's this is no different.I couldn't down load the PUKE icon for some reason- insert PUKE here....... More passes, wtf, we pay enough before we even make it in the woods! Our woods I might add, hunters and fishermen need a free pass with all the licenses and tags we buy! How about them managing money just a bit better, they always take the easy way out and just pass it down the line to us, the public with seemingly deep pockets. If you like it so much, you should buy some of our passes who don't like it. Ill let you buy mine cause ill never buy one!
Post by: trophyhunt on November 13, 2013, 06:21:19 AM
I used to take the family all the time, no more, and unfortunalty no more donations to the feeding of the elk. f that pass.So, are they going to enforce it at all the feeding stations this year? Because last year I was there and only a handful of vehicles had them out of the 200 hundred trying to park there? I seen the volunteers at Oak Creek trying to tell some people about the pass but they weren't to receptive. Lot of money right there.......
They enforced it last year. Last year there was even a State Park Ranger writing tickets at the feed station. So yes, State Park Rangers writing tickets at WDFW areas, and YES this is legal.
:tup: hope they hit it hard again this year then, especially at oak creek areas since I heard alot of people saying expletive things to the volunteers there. I tossed in my :twocents: for the volunteers and a nice conversation took place several times. Needless to say, lot of money there on any given day waiting to be collected. :tup:
Post by: jackmaster on November 13, 2013, 07:04:08 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 13, 2013, 07:56:09 AM
to be honest, the only people that should be required to buy this pass are the non sportsman, what i mean by that is the people that DO NOT BUY a hunting or fishing license!!! DONT we the sportsman pay enough?? IDK about you guys and gals but with 2 kids and myself, after permit apps for the kids, i dont put myself in anymore, but after the kids and myself i am at 400 and thats definatly on the cheap side, i know other guys that pay more than that just for themselves, plus they buy raffle tickets to, it wouldnt hurt the WDFW or whoever is incharge of this damn discover pass to STAND-UP for the sportsman, WE PAY ENOUGH ALREADY!!! go after the non sportsman that have the right to vote down huntn methods that have been around for ever, tell them since they voted stuff down that they need to pick up the extra dollars lost...... you see you start takin huntn methods away and you lose money YET you want the people that are losing rights to hunt a certain way to make up for the money shortage, sorry if that dont make alot of sense to some, i am sure piannoman or one of the other future POTUS members could have said it a little more eliquently :chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
Lol, Jack. I don't think anyone disagrees with you that sportsmen already pay enough to access the outdoor opportunities of this state. Having said that, apparently the legislature disagrees, at least so far. Our options are 1. Ignore the law and challenge the fines in court, 2. Obey the law and get the DP, or 3. Work with our legislators to amend the law to accept the DFW parking pass as meeting the requirement. Personally, I'll pay for the pass and feel that this would be a great campaign for our WFW to take on with the legislature.
Post by: jackmaster on November 13, 2013, 11:17:40 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 13, 2013, 11:26:55 AM
Post by: Limhangerslayer on November 13, 2013, 06:17:34 PM
Post by: sakoshooter on November 13, 2013, 07:49:23 PM
My fishin buddy came back to his rig and trailer that was sitting on a gravel bar on the Clearwater, after a long float to find one of those $99 Discover Pass tickets on his rig. :bash: The whole thing is just a racket!
Post by: ScottyG on November 14, 2013, 06:53:01 PM
Life is complicated enough without all this nonsense. I guy pretty much needs an administrative assistant just to properly prepare for a weekend of fun in the woods that doesn't include a citation for one thing or another.
Post by: bobcat on November 14, 2013, 09:01:36 PM
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Post by: PlateauNDN on November 15, 2013, 10:23:08 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 15, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
What's really sad is if you get that one L.E.O. who is a stickler or is having abad day and pulls you over and tickets you for having items hanging from your rearview mirror and BANG! The State got even more money out of you. :bdid:
That wouldn't hold up in court, especially with a notch in the holder specifically for the mirror.
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 15, 2013, 10:33:44 AM
What's really sad is if you get that one L.E.O. who is a stickler or is having abad day and pulls you over and tickets you for having items hanging from your rearview mirror and BANG! The State got even more money out of you. :bdid:
That wouldn't hold up in court, especially with a notch in the holder specifically for the mirror.
Who knows because last I checked it was still a law tonot have items hanging from the rearview mirror while the vehicle is in motion. LIke I said, the 1 officer, not saying they all stop for that reason but, just the 1 that's having a bad day or something. :tup:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on November 15, 2013, 10:34:29 AM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 15, 2013, 10:38:02 AM
What's really sad is if you get that one L.E.O. who is a stickler or is having abad day and pulls you over and tickets you for having items hanging from your rearview mirror and BANG! The State got even more money out of you. :bdid:
That wouldn't hold up in court, especially with a notch in the holder specifically for the mirror.
It likely would....
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 15, 2013, 10:50:59 AM
Post by: bigtex on November 15, 2013, 10:55:16 AM
Ah, kind of seems like they're entrapping you by requiring you to hang it on your mirror and then ticketing you for leaving it there. I've been driving with mine on all the time if I'm going to or from. Thanks for the edumacation. :tup:
Actually nobody is requiring you to hang it on the mirror. All the law states is that the pass "must be visibly displayed in the front windshield, or otherwise in a prominent location for motor vehicles without a windshield, of any motor vehicle"
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=79A.80.080 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=79A.80.080)
I personally throw mine on the dash since my mirror is too thick to hang it on
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 15, 2013, 10:56:14 AM
Post by: hntrspud on November 15, 2013, 11:09:35 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 15, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
It really doesnt matter anymore what you do, they are going to get money out of us somehow. Pretty soon you will have to pay a fee for the animal you harvested to be taken out of the woods. I am sure they are coming up with more ways. Its all part of this pathetic state mismanaging the funds that they increase at any moment that they can. All the Yuppies dont care tho, as they think that it actually does good. :bash: :bash:
Yeah, that's why they used to have the trash bag law in WA, so the cop didn't have to let you go without making some money. Public servants. :tup: