bad morning at tarbell

[bigtex]

bigtex,

I was told by the DNR cop over in my neck of the woods, that all the DNR land has been posted through the DNR website and that's all DNR had to do. Basically, he said that DNR land does not have to have a physical posting at each area. True of false ?

Well in reality the requirement of lands to be posted has been eliminated.

When the Discover Pass was created some DNR lands required it and others did not, as a result the legislature required DNR to post those areas it was required.

Then the legislature said ALL DNR lands required the pass, so in their mind, why should there be a need to post the lands requiring the pass if all the lands need it?

So the DNR Officer you talked to is correct.

But what about the no gates rule? 

What about it?

If you are driving on DNR/WDFW lands with no gate you don't need it as long as you are driving. As soon as you park you need it!

[CAMPMEAT]

Thanks bigtex...........

[appyacres]

Let me clear up a little misconception here... I was not mad, just didn't realize the WDFW tag was not valid for the area (DNR land) that I was in. I did not know I needed the Discover Pass.

What I said was, I knew better relating to the Discovery vs Discover wording, so kindly pointed out.

A hard lesson learned on my part.

I tried to explain this whole thing to a few different people to save them some $$$ but they argued with me about needing a Discover Pass. I tried, and don't wish the same fate on anyone...

So I guess that makes me about even on the discover Pass. The $99 fine is reduced to $59 with proof of pass purchase within 15 days of the citation. The $35 for the pass is actually cheaper than if I would have bought one the last 2 years. I'll buy another one next year because I am not trying to "beat the system" as was pointed out earlier...

Happy Hunting to all, and calm down. It's only money...

[rsarkks]

I found a source of maps showing DNR managed land requiring the use of a Discover Pass.

http://www.dnr.wa.gov/RecreationEducation/Topics/OpenClosureNotices/Pages/amr_statewide_rec.aspx

The Yacolt Burn State Forest (Tarbell area) is noted on this site. Hope this helps.

[pianoman9701]

I like to pick mushrooms up there and haven't been yet this year because I don't have the DP. There are posted signs when you enter the area, so... I guess sorry for you that you got hit but I'm glad that if I'm going to have to pay to use it, they're enforcing on those who don't.

[PlateauNDN]

So, are they going to enforce it at all the feeding stations this year?  Because last year I was there and only a handful of vehicles had them out of the 200 hundred trying to park there?  I seen the volunteers at Oak Creek trying to tell some people about the pass but they weren't to receptive.  Lot of money right there.......

[bigtex]

So, are they going to enforce it at all the feeding stations this year?  Because last year I was there and only a handful of vehicles had them out of the 200 hundred trying to park there?  I seen the volunteers at Oak Creek trying to tell some people about the pass but they weren't to receptive.  Lot of money right there.......

They enforced it last year. Last year there was even a State Park Ranger writing tickets at the feed station. So yes, State Park Rangers writing tickets at WDFW areas, and YES this is legal.

[PlateauNDN]

So, are they going to enforce it at all the feeding stations this year?  Because last year I was there and only a handful of vehicles had them out of the 200 hundred trying to park there?  I seen the volunteers at Oak Creek trying to tell some people about the pass but they weren't to receptive.  Lot of money right there.......

They enforced it last year. Last year there was even a State Park Ranger writing tickets at the feed station. So yes, State Park Rangers writing tickets at WDFW areas, and YES this is legal.

   hope they hit it hard again this year then, especially at oak creek areas since I heard alot of people saying expletive things to the volunteers there.  I tossed in my    for the volunteers and a nice conversation took place several times.  Needless to say, lot of money there on any given day waiting to be collected.

[Boss .300 winmag]

were the tree huggers spitting nails about tickets they were. 

[Bookworm007]

I finally broke down and got a pass this year. Wasn't worth the risk of getting a $99 ticket. There are lots of signs up though so there is really no excuse for not knowing that you need one up there. But you can get away with the driving part if you claim to be using the road to access the National Forest land.

[pianoman9701]

Let me clear up a little misconception here... I was not mad, just didn't realize the WDFW tag was not valid for the area (DNR land) that I was in. I did not know I needed the Discover Pass.

What I said was, I knew better relating to the Discovery vs Discover wording, so kindly pointed out.

A hard lesson learned on my part.

I tried to explain this whole thing to a few different people to save them some $$$ but they argued with me about needing a Discover Pass. I tried, and don't wish the same fate on anyone...

So I guess that makes me about even on the discover Pass. The $99 fine is reduced to $59 with proof of pass purchase within 15 days of the citation. The $35 for the pass is actually cheaper than if I would have bought one the last 2 years. I'll buy another one next year because I am not trying to "beat the system" as was pointed out earlier...

Happy Hunting to all, and calm down. It's only money...

Thanks for the warning then. 

[Taco280AI]

I'm going to have to spend some time in the regs if I get posted at Lewis.

Hunting license $$$
Deer/elk/bear...whatever tag $$$
want to actually go and hunt - need a pass $$$
want to hunt timber - need a pass $$$

Fishing $$$
Salmon $$$
fish a certain area $$$
pass for certain area $$$

is annoying how you can't just buy your license and tag and go hunt or fish, need two or three add-ons for everything

[bigtex]

I'm going to have to spend some time in the regs if I get posted at Lewis.

Hunting license $$$
Deer/elk/bear...whatever tag $$$
want to actually go and hunt - need a pass $$$
want to hunt timber - need a pass $$$

Fishing $$$
Salmon $$$
fish a certain area $$$
pass for certain area $$$

is annoying how you can't just buy your license and tag and go hunt or fish, need two or three add-ons for everything

Welcome to west coast hunting. California is even worse 

[Moose Master]

The pass is great and they get the money in there account.  Ass, gas, or grass it take's money and time to build roads, toilet's, patrol and a whole lot of other items that we don't see done.  Could be like Texas where most of the property is private and you pay to enter.  Time for everyone to look at what we have and maintain it.  When my kids use the property they get the same speech and I expect them to share that with the next generation to come along.  Public property is all of our home's and we pay to maintain our own home's this is no different.

[Alan K]

The pass is great and they get the money in there account.  Ass, gas, or grass it take's money and time to build roads, toilet's, patrol and a whole lot of other items that we don't see done.  Could be like Texas where most of the property is private and you pay to enter.  Time for everyone to look at what we have and maintain it.  When my kids use the property they get the same speech and I expect them to share that with the next generation to come along.  Public property is all of our home's and we pay to maintain our own home's this is no different.

Don't want to take this thread in another direction, but I think the main gripe over this thing (mine included) is that only a very small fraction of the DP's income goes to the land/area that 90% of the money comes from.  Most people wouldn't have a problem with paying a recreational access fee if the money went towards road maintenance, garbage pickup, etc. in the areas that we use the pass. The problem is the pass is basically a subsidy for state parks that the public doesn't want to pay for.  We don't have a problem paying for something we get something in return for.