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Should I be proud that I just bought the dang discover pass and am following the rules or should I be ashamed that I didn't remain defiant and buck the system because I don't believe in it.

PROUD
59 (34.3%)
ASHAMED
113 (65.7%)

Total Members Voted: 172

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Offline quadrafire

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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2013, 01:19:59 PM »
I'm not proud to buy it but I'm definitely not ashamed either so I voted proud.
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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2013, 01:20:00 PM »
I'm income tax-paying proud of my Discover Pass.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2013, 01:23:09 PM »
I won't vote in the poll because I'm not ashamed, or proud, of buying my Discover pass last year. I'm not quite as adamantly against it as many of you seem to be.

I think it's a fair deal for those who frequently use the state parks. No problem with that, they require a lot of upkeep and maintenance, and it only makes sense for those using the parks to pay for that.

I also like that non-hunters/fishers who use WDFW boat launches and/or Wildlife Areas now have to pay something for that use, as we have been doing all along.

As for DNR lands, I think it's fair enough for people using campgrounds or other developed recreational areas, to pay something for that use as well.

So the only real problem I have is I don't feel it should be required on ALL DNR lands.

The other issue is that it can only be used with two vehicles. So the pass I bought, if I put the license plate from my Bronco and my truck on the pass, the wife and I cannot use her car to take the family to a state park.

I paid for it, I should be able to use it for any vehicle I own.

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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2013, 01:28:02 PM »
I paid for it, I should be able to use it for any vehicle I own.

This is basically the main issue I have with any of the pay passes.. and you can only buy one discover/national forest pass on your own personal license so why can't it be used with YOU wherever you go. I have three vehicles, I physically cannot purchase another pass, it seems like a headache.

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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2013, 01:29:12 PM »
I think you should add "indifferent" to your poll.  I definetely wouldn't be "proud", maybe kinda sleezy

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winning answer right here.  I see no point in being defiant and costing yourself 3 times what it would cost to buy the pass but I sure ain't proud of having to pay a fee to use public land that I should be able to use without paying such fee.  My time fighting a ticket is worth more than the cost of the pass.  I guess all we can do is the little bit we can by making people aware of the issue and sending worthless e-mails to legislators.
You can go anywhere theres a discover pass for free, Its the fact that your taking up space and parking your vehicle. THATS what makes the discover pass valid.
Plus, I'm not ashamed what so ever to ever buy one. It helps towards the costs of simple maintenance to all the parks, trails, places we go that require them.
I highly doubt anyone in here goes out of they're way to cutt trails, Dig holes and place fences along view access points.
That's what you gotta think about. Not your own personal agendas. "Ohh boohoo I have to pay 35 bucks a year to park somewhere."
IT also helps keep the fishing hatcheries funded, Because without those we would have absolutely no salmon.
Just my  :twocents: Not a single living soul will convince me otherwise.
Plus it makes me feel like I'm contributing. Not just taking advantage of what I think should be free free free.
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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2013, 01:29:32 PM »
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I also like that non-hunters/fishers who use WDFW boat launches and/or Wildlife Areas now have to pay something for that use, as we have been doing all along

I especially agree with this.   Growing up I felt this way with snowparks and cross country skiers.  As a snowmobile "user" group, we had to pay in lecense fees but the other user groups got to park there for free if it wasn't for that permit.   

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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2013, 01:32:21 PM »
I paid for it, I should be able to use it for any vehicle I own.

This is basically the main issue I have with any of the pay passes.. and you can only buy one discover/national forest pass on your own personal license so why can't it be used with YOU wherever you go. I have three vehicles, I physically cannot purchase another pass, it seems like a headache.
YUP that I do agree with, and they're willing to listen to reason as they did last year, and people wanted it somewhat transferable from vehicle to vehicle. It should be PER wild ID, like it is... But if I have a discover pass, and I go with my buddy in his car, Its no longer valid unless I sacrifice a 1 of 2 spots for vehicles. Me and my girl alone, have about 4 different vehicles we drive at any given point, soo right there alone. 1 Discover pass per wild ID, Wild ID shouldn't need to be registered to a vehicle, Just have it on hand. Simple resolution to everyones problem.
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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2013, 01:33:43 PM »
Proud may not have been the right word.....not sure what the right word is......Happy with myself that I did "the right thing" by following the law instead of willfully breaking it as I disagree with it or don't like it necessarily. 

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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2013, 01:34:25 PM »
You might as well be proud as crappy as it is....your not breakin the law and risking a ticket by not having it
Plus If I recall a ticket rangeds from $38-87.
Why risk that when you could pay $35 ONE time, which isnt that much money lol.
And not have to worry about ever getting a ticket.
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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2013, 01:35:02 PM »
and how about making it like a college parking pass or something with enough backbone to survive a year hanging from my mirror.......


I think the ticket was $100 Smossy

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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2013, 01:35:23 PM »
Proud may not have been the right word.....not sure what the right word is......Happy with myself that I did "the right thing" by following the law instead of willfully breaking it as I disagree with it or don't like it necessarily. 
Ok ok we can agree with you there then. Maybe not PROUD but Im definetly willing, I feel like its contribution. Kind of like going to church and handing over your money to a basket.
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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2013, 01:35:32 PM »
Many people who buy a Discover pass don't have a WILD ID.

Also, the Discover pass isn't just for parking. You need it if you're just driving on state land as well.

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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2013, 01:36:40 PM »
and how about making it like a college parking pass or something with enough backbone to survive a year hanging from my mirror.......


I think the ticket was $100 Smossy
Yeah thats even worse, It should be laminated! OO fancy! I think that would last. Plus its not hard to laminate things. But as of right now they cant do that because you need to be able to "label" your license plates, Make it an ON HAND thing per Wild ID, Laminate them.
BAM. Good to go.
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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2013, 01:37:33 PM »
Many people who buy a Discover pass don't have a WILD ID.

Also, the Discover pass isn't just for parking. You need it if you're just driving on state land as well.
True didnt think of that, Just a vehicle in general I guess then. You can hike in there for free though if its that big of a deal.

Maybe VIA social # then?
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Re: Proud or Ashamed
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2013, 01:38:01 PM »
pay it, hope the funds go to where it's really needed, and pretend to be proud for now :dunno:
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