To build a coyote trap

[Machias]

You'd have to have a top and a bottom or they will jump out or dig out.

[huntingfool7]

Coyotes have pretty fast reflexes. I'm thinking a carousel type design similar to the one on the video but smaller and lower to the ground. Bout 30' off the ground.  Still playing with ideas before I start cutting

Could use a round bale feeder for the frame.
http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/galvanized-economic-bale-feeder?cm_vc=-10005

[kirkdekalb]

Before you spend your money and time, do some research on a fairly extensive study done in California.  They did trap some yotes, the vast majority were young of the year just weaned.  It was some ungodly amount of time the traps set to catch ratio.  Thousands of hours per catch.

All the studies I have seen are using out dated equipment. None of the latest developed. I know of a study that is suppose to take place soon. They have some newly designed equipment but not the latest. Even with all of the latest equipment the ability of the trapper with any equipment is crucial.

Just because you haven,t seen it, doesn,t mean it hasn,t been developed.

[Machias]

Totally agree Kirk, but if you're going to build the same type of trap that has been used in those old studies, then I think it's a good idea to review those studies...even if they are old.  They were pretty extensive.

[kirkdekalb]

That is true.

Problems I have seen are mainly limited funding and lack of knowledge as to what has been developed and what can be developed. Most keep going back to original designs because that is all that they are familiar with. I will post some of my findings base on posts on this thread. Maybe someone will get further with it than I did.

[Machias]

I figure if ANYONE can figure out cage trapping yotes, it would be you!!

[kirkdekalb]

Coyotes have pretty fast reflexes. I'm thinking a carousel type design similar to the one on the video but smaller and lower to the ground. Bout 30' off the ground.  Still playing with ideas before I start cutting

I made a drop down design about 6 years ago. I found it to be very bulky and almost impractical because of weight. At the time I did not have the technology I now have patents on, but even then this design seemed too impractical. One of my concerns was how dangerous it could be if not fired at the right time. Another concern was the reluctance some animals have to inter an over hang or just entering the trap. Because the animal could enter from any direction position upon firing was critical if you wanted to limit the size of the trap. I used a hanging four way trigger. The problem with a hanging trigger in positioning for me has been trying not to get any scent on the trigger you were not wanting him to notice. You can place in center but for the trap to fall fast enough made it dangerous. Some one probably has a more practical design than what I experimented with.

Bruce described a very open design. I could never come up with anything like it with out it being almost dangerous. Maybe someone will figure it out.

[kirkdekalb]

I've been told if you have a big enough trap it may work. I would love to hear any ideas or suggestions any of you may have.
Sofar I'm thinking 4't X 4'w X 6'L.  Conibar trigger or power trigger.  Will be power doors either swinging or gillateen

Chris Sims has caught more than two coyotes at a time in the large cage he uses, but it is bigger than you described. It was a gravity doored trap.

[Humptulips]

Kirk,
I have an idea but it is just an idea. We all know there is a lot of room between that and a working trap that actually does what you want.
One thing for sure trappers have and will burn a lot of brain cells on the problem.

[jasnt]

Thanks for the input guys. Safety is my main concern aswell Kirk. As for heavy or uneconomical that I don't care about yet. I'll never make money let alone break even. This is just a passion for me.

[Machias]

  I hope you didn't take my original post as me trying to discourage you.  I was only trying to help you eliminate possibilities, i.e. save some time and money.  Trust me, I'm a guy who as a kid spent MANY hours trying to make wooden squirrel and coon traps that had locking doors.  You all would crack up if you seen some of my designs.  Coons routinely showed me my design flaws. 

[jasnt]

No Fred I know your intentions are good. You have been nothing but helpful.  I know this could be a long proses and I'm happy for the challenge. I enjoy testing my ideas and look forward to all in sight and criticism, and I'll need both

[jasnt]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/wildlife_weekly/

Check out the coyote video lower right

[Machias]

  Awesome video!

[KFhunter]

http://trappintales.com/AT/product/32-live-bait-trap/?v=400b9db48e62