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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2017, 06:16:52 AM »
Browning Citori CX they are $1500 and will last 10x longer than anything made in Turkey

Is this what you have?  How much bird hunting do you do with it?

I bought a CX last June they pattern 60/40 so they shoot a little high for a raising target.  The are 3" invector plus and come with 3 or 4 chokes, I can't remember because I also bought some aftermarket ones.  Last fall he shot 14 pheasants 3 huns and a dozen quail with it.  We also shoot ATA trap, he is hold a 93% avg in singles and 89% with Handicap even though it is not a trap gun.  To date he had 6300 shells down the tube and not a single issue.  Best $1500 I think I have ever spent

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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2017, 07:45:12 AM »
Highcountry,   Mirkou made Charles Daley and Browning Citories.  The 101 was built as a joint venture between Olin and Kendosha Manufacturing the same company that made Nikko shotguns.

As others have said, if you plan to shoot a lot, spend the money for an O/U that is built to shoot a lot.  If your a casual shooter, maybe a flat a year just about anything will work.

I still have my first Win 101 and it was my competition gun for many years and later rechoked into a bird gun and ha a quarter million shells plus through it and you still can't close it on a piece paper although it is on it's second stock.  Another I have also circa 1966 has been my skeet gun and upland gun for 50+ years and is still going strong.
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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2017, 07:54:35 AM »
I've hunted with my Stoeger Condor for probably 5  years now.  No issues and shoots fine for me, but I'm easy to please.  :tup:

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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2017, 11:40:34 AM »
I've been hunting with a Weatherby Orion for about 14 years now. They'e about $1,000 I love that gun. The break action on it is still stiff & it fits me really nice. There are a lot of times it seems like I can't miss with that thing. I love that gun.

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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2017, 11:49:05 AM »
I have a CZ Mallard 12ga. It has burned 20+ cases of shells with no issues. Clays or live birds it crunches what it's pointed at. 400 dollar gun and would not trade it for any Browning Citori or anything else. IMO the only difference in a high dollar gun and a CZ is the wood and finish.
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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2017, 11:56:22 AM »
Browning Citori CX they are $1500 and will last 10x longer than anything made in Turkey

 Don't agree. Do you have any long term experience with either?
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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2017, 12:14:37 PM »
Browning Citori CX they are $1500 and will last 10x longer than anything made in Turkey

 Don't agree. Do you have any long term experience with either?

Yup I sure do, and no I am not a Kreghoff or Kolar snob.  I personally shoot 10k 12 Ga a year, my teenager shoots 6500 a year.  We use our guns, and we use them a lot.  I own Japanese Brownings, Belgium Brownings, 870's, Benelli's, Ithaca 37, and the only shotgun that I have any problems with is the Turkish stuff.   A Citori is not a high dollar shotgun, yes it is $400-500 more than a Tristar or Bicaial, CZ but he could give it in shooting condition to his grandkids.  Sometimes there is value in not being "cheap"

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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2017, 12:24:27 PM »
Hmm What Turkish stuff? And what problems did you have if you recall?

And I would say most folks would consider @1500$ a high dollar gun
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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2017, 12:39:25 PM »
I had a "Weatherby" 870 clone S0-8 I think was the model number after 400 rounds it would not feed from the magazine.  Funny thing was it would only not feed with factory shells.  It was eat my rattiest reloads but not a new Winchester or Remington shell.

A family friend who kids is on the same trap team as my kid had a TriStar that after 1200 rounds the lever was bottomed out and looser than my 1972 BT99 that has had 1/4 million rounds down it. 

And finally last month at the NW Grand @ the Spokane Gun club a kid from Montana with a brand new Turkish SKB single barrel trap had his firing pin break.  It was April and he said he got in February.  He was shooting Federal GM factory loads so it was not a ammo issue.

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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2017, 03:22:43 PM »
Highcountry,   Mirkou made Charles Daley and Browning Citories.  The 101 was built as a joint venture between Olin and Kendosha Manufacturing the same company that made Nikko shotguns.

As others have said, if you plan to shoot a lot, spend the money for an O/U that is built to shoot a lot.  If your a casual shooter, maybe a flat a year just about anything will work.

I still have my first Win 101 and it was my competition gun for many years and later rechoked into a bird gun and ha a quarter million shells plus through it and you still can't close it on a piece paper although it is on it's second stock.  Another I have also circa 1966 has been my skeet gun and upland gun for 50+ years and is still going strong.

You're correct.  It was Weatherby they made them for, still a fine gun for the money.

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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2017, 03:24:28 PM »
There's a history of the Turkish firing pins going down. That's the Achilles heel.

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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2017, 08:04:15 PM »
You guys have helped me a ton.  I went and put my hands on a lot of over unders today.  The winchester 101 that was used that I saw for 699$ really impressed me.  But after handling cz, beretta, tristar, and a charles daly, I came to love the browning 725 field.  It fit perfectly and the first time I held it up I didn't even realize there were two beads on it until I started to exam it closer.  The other thing that I learned is that I don't like guns that have auto safety every time you close the action. Which beretta and stoeger both do. 
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Re: Over/Under shotguns
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2017, 06:16:35 AM »
No matter what you get, the most important thing with a shotgun is fit.  If it does not feel right to you, put it down and walk away.

 


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