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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #285 on: August 27, 2018, 07:45:47 AM »
Just wondering, If you knew a Yakama that drew the Swakane Tag would you help him scout if asked or would you want no part of it?  Just seems like a good opportunity for someone to go at least look at some beautiful animals in there.  Or would you not help a tribal member simply because he's a tribal member?  Just a question.


I like this question. My answer would be this: I may have frustrations about a lack of cooperation between the entity which grants your tags, and the entity which grants my tags, but if you hold a lawful tag Id be happy to help a fellow man!

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #286 on: August 27, 2018, 08:21:19 AM »
 :yeah:  :brew:
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #287 on: August 27, 2018, 08:33:40 AM »
Just wondering, If you knew a Yakama that drew the Swakane Tag would you help him scout if asked or would you want no part of it?  Just seems like a good opportunity for someone to go at least look at some beautiful animals in there.  Or would you not help a tribal member simply because he's a tribal member?  Just a question.


I like this question. My answer would be this: I may have frustrations about a lack of cooperation between the entity which grants your tags, and the entity which grants my tags, but if you hold a lawful tag Id be happy to help a fellow man!

 :yeah:


I would certainly never do, or not do something "simply because he's a tribal member"   
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #288 on: August 27, 2018, 09:16:35 AM »
If it was a state draw tag that was drawn I might consider helping someone regardless of who they were if I was asked.... However a tag like this that there was no input from the wdfw or regard for the welfare of the sheep herd and the effect it will have on the rest of us hopeful sheep hunters that would like to draw a swakane sheep tag someday….no I would not.. Not about it being a Yakama hunter but the process that was used to give out those tags that I don't agree with..

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #289 on: August 27, 2018, 09:18:04 AM »
Well thanks for the input, I'm being told both guys that got drew have very busy schedules and they would prob want to know the answer to a question like that.  So thank you guys.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #290 on: August 27, 2018, 09:19:34 AM »
Well thanks for the input, I'm being told both guys that got drew have very busy schedules and they would prob want to know the answer to a question like that.  So thank you guys.

They should have no trouble finding a legal sheep to shoot assuming they're willing to put forth a little effort.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #291 on: August 27, 2018, 09:22:54 AM »
Ok, Thanks
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #292 on: August 27, 2018, 09:28:09 AM »
It sucks but i'm gonna throw this out anyway,Realize this.If they wanted to they could have just made it open season on the herd with no draw.It sucks but it could be worse.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #293 on: August 27, 2018, 10:05:26 AM »
It sucks but i'm gonna throw this out anyway,Realize this.If they wanted to they could have just made it open season on the herd with no draw.It sucks but it could be worse.

I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking when I say I'm just looking for some willingness to collaborate with the state to help preserve our big game animals...especially animals like the sheep in the Swakane that are vulnerable and high profile.

I'm genuinely curious to know if the 2 guys that drew the tags are interested in shooting the first legal sheep they see to fill the freezer or if they're going to hunt for a trophy sized ram.

I'm also curious to know if the tribe can sell these tags.
 
 
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #294 on: August 27, 2018, 10:10:07 AM »
You're not alone.Great question.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #295 on: August 27, 2018, 10:13:52 AM »
The tribe cannot sell these tags.  But I know what you saying, it would be high profitability like a San Carlos Bull or White apache bull for them to do so.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #296 on: August 27, 2018, 10:15:51 AM »
Well they probably wouldn't have put in for Swakane if they didn't know the History. 
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #297 on: August 27, 2018, 10:43:25 AM »
Is there no history of native Americans seeking out large male specimines in their tradition? I keep seeing the "fill the freezer" comments but I have to imagine there was an allure of large antlers and horns to native Americans before the reservation system.

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #298 on: August 27, 2018, 11:00:58 AM »
No I think how it goes is If a Native shoots an animal with big antlers he is no longer a hunter he's a savage, But if a non native shoots a 350 plus with a State Tag he is a Sportsman,  And if you buy fuel and Tobacco from a Native the State calls that illegal, but if you drive across the border Oregon and Idaho and get it for cheaper your also a Sportsman or Law abiding citizen.  IDK as long as you keep the Native poor on this reservation you did your job.  And I think "filling the freezer" means with huckleberry's and roots.   
« Last Edit: August 27, 2018, 11:02:12 AM by h20hunter »
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #299 on: August 27, 2018, 11:05:55 AM »
LOL sorry seen an opening had to take it.  But I agree with you on big antlers, don't really know how to answer you question without getting attacked.  I'm pretty sure if a warrior had a big woman back when buffalo were around He prob shot a big bull so he could cover her butt up with a Buffalo robe.  Thats bout the best I can help with that one.  lol
« Last Edit: August 27, 2018, 11:08:06 AM by h20hunter »
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