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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2020, 11:53:40 AM »
USFS and WDFW have teamed up, this is to drum up a trail of violations, the goal is to revoke permits on public lands due to these violations.

I know a lot of hunters are really perturbed at finding cows after nov 1 messing up their bait piles and mineral dumps, and will glady go along with destroying a way of life for ranchers using these permits.

I used to work cows on many of these allotments for several ranchers, cows don't always come off range when you want them too, they split off in small groups and can be difficult to round up in a timely fasion.

Typically you pull salt first (but everyone is dumping salt all over the place)

Then you bait the cows to holding areas
(But everyone is dumping hay, apples and bait, and hay all over)

Then you get guys to help round em up
(But wolves, bait and mineral sites, hay piles have cows broken ip in many small groups)

Failing that, its weather that pushes them down (so much for nov 1 deadline)


I'll not participate in this scheme to destroy a way of life, ya'll do as you like, but at least be aware of your actions when you do it.

The goal is to end grazing on public lands.
They want your help to do it.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2020, 12:01:45 PM by KFhunter »

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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2020, 12:07:35 PM »
Iíve always contacted the rancher personally to let them know I have found some of their critters and have helped them retrieve them.  I donít call the government for anything.

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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2020, 12:14:14 PM »
Iíve always contacted the rancher personally to let them know I have found some of their critters and have helped them retrieve them.  I donít call the government for anything.

 :yeah: Anyone that thinks these government agencies are just doing it to help are crazy.  Get ahold of the rancher or donít say anything. I hope no one dials that number.

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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2020, 12:19:02 PM »
Oh it'll get dialed, every so often I'm shocked at the vitriol I hear from hunters I know towards those "f cows getting in my deer stand"

usually followed by a joke of tagging out on a beef

Ya, it'll get dialed....

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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2020, 12:24:03 PM »
Does anyone trust WDFW anymore?

You are killing me Smalls  :chuckle:
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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2020, 12:37:08 PM »
Pitting one user group against the other has been the way of wdfw management for decades.  Old as the saying is, but it still applies, divide and conquer.

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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2020, 12:56:34 PM »
This has been their goal for a long time. Hopefully no hunter falls for their BS.

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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2020, 08:22:03 PM »
F the wdfw.

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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2020, 08:55:36 PM »
So what happens with the fire danger with no grazing? Is anybody even thinking about that?
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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2020, 09:18:31 PM »
Blame it on CO2.

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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2020, 09:55:43 PM »
I want to hunt wolves. Can we be part of the solution?

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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2020, 08:36:21 AM »
So what happens with the fire danger with no grazing? Is anybody even thinking about that?
All that tall brown dry grass growing up through the dry unbrowsed brush thats growning up into untrimmed trees growning in unlogged areas full of dead fall...


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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2020, 08:48:36 AM »
Does anyone trust WDFW anymore?

You are killing me Smalls  :chuckle:


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Re: WDFW Proposal to Eliminate Public Grazing Where Wolves Reside
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2020, 09:08:45 AM »
I think folks should actually read what WDFW wrote.  The OP's title and associated comment letter are extremely misleading.  The WDFW describes when and where grazing is used for the benefit of wildlife and habitat on lands they manage and I see nothing that suggests grazing will not continue to be a tool they use. 

WDFW seeks to maintain maximum flexibility to meet wolf recovery goals and to continue to permit viable grazing in areas potentially used by wolves.


That's what I saw too.  I'm trying to figure out how this is a wolf issue? How much grazing does wdfw permit?

You gotta dig a little and read every link. Its how everything always works. But your answer is here. "WDFW is conducting an environmental review on the proposed changes in accordance with the State Environmental Policy Act (SEPA)"

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-09/attachment_draft_wdfw_grazing_guidance_and_grazing_management_tools_0.pdf
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