collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Tractor or quad?  (Read 2784 times)

Online jrebel

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Feb 2008
  • Posts: 8033
  • Location: East Wenatchee
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2021, 05:20:40 PM »
My backhoe has been a god send.  Water hydrant broke.....dug it up and fixed in a couple hours.   Without the hoe I would still be digging.  Plant a few trees here and there....use the hoe.   Yeah it could sit around a bit, but when you need it....it is invaluable.  To rent one when your 45 min from town is a pain.  Buy once, cry once.

Offline turkeyfeather

  • King Redneck
  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 4845
  • Location: Spokane Valley
  • Captain-Tree Hugger Harrasement Team
  • Groups: NWTF
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2021, 06:10:23 PM »
If you do buy new, don't fall for any offers of extended warranties.  You will never use it.  I have a 30 HP Kubota and after 16 years, other than a very minor tire issue (fixed on my own), nothing has gone wrong with it.  It is a very strong tractor.  I didn't buy the Kubota backhoe because they ran off the PTO at the time.  That is no good (neighbor has had many problems with his).  Mine runs off the hydraulics of the tractor, much more efficient and more powerful.  It was $2K cheaper than the Kubota hoe.  Instead of a warranty, I bartered for a couple extras.
A co-worker suggested getting a brush hog that ran off the PTO. Do you agree?
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an un-armed person.

Offline Jingles

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 2626
  • Location: Methow Valley
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2021, 06:20:21 PM »
Consider the brush hog and a snow blower that both run off the PTO. THE blower will allow you to keep your drive/private road open without needing to have to push back the berms.
HMC/USN/RET
1969 -1990

The duty of a Patriot is to protect his country from it's government

Offline Knocker of rocks

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 7608
  • Location: the Holocene, man
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2021, 08:28:08 PM »
I didn't buy the Kubota backhoe because they ran off the PTO at the time.  That is no good (neighbor has had many problems with his).  Mine runs off the hydraulics of the tractor, much more efficient and more powerful. 

The ability to run a hoe off the tractor hydraulics is dependent on the machine.  Most modest sized ag based tractors have modest sized hydraulic systems, unlike an otherwise similarly sized TLB's (tractor-loader-backhoes) which has a more robust hydraulic system.

Consider the brush hog and a snow blower that both run off the PTO. THE blower will allow you to keep your drive/private road open without needing to have to push back the berms.

Yes.  And the simpliest snowblowers require that you back up to blow snow.  Fancier ones mount in the front and run off a front or mid mount PTO.   And the fanciest ones mount to the loader and run off a seperate PTO driven hydraulic pump.   

And in the NE part of the state you should probably give thought to a cab if you're doing much snow blowing.  And then you have to think of AC or pulling the cab in summer.

Tractorbynet is a great tractor forum.

Offline Skyvalhunter

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 14522
  • Location: The valley/Methow
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2021, 05:24:28 AM »
So is the consensus to go with a Kubota & size?  Should a person go new($) or used? I suppose you could go used if you knew what kind of use or abuse it had. Just thoughts

Offline trophyhunt

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+9)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2008
  • Posts: 14100
  • Location: Wetside
  • Groups: Wa Wild Sheep Life Member
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2021, 06:58:09 AM »
Kubota is a solid machine, I thing the hydraulic pump is much better than other popular brands, but I haven't tried the brand new ones.  Used is tough because it seems most people leave their machines out side 24/7.  Sounds like the interest rates are pretty good on new, unless you find that perfect jem, then used would be better.
“In common with”..... not so much!!

Online jrebel

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Feb 2008
  • Posts: 8033
  • Location: East Wenatchee
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2021, 08:18:22 AM »
I wouldn’t say kabota is the only one to look at.   There a quite a few very reputable machines out there now days.  I looked at kabota and thought the price was super high for what hour getting.  I bought a Massey Ferguson with a shuttle shift and saved a ton of money.  Mine was used as a loaner from the dealer with a 100 hours on it.  It was basically new and had been lent to a golf course to mow the rough for a summer while theirs was being built.  Massey’s backhoe attaches to the frame and not the three point hitch like some machines. 

If I were in the market again I would consider Deere, kabota, Massey, new Holland as the top brands to look at.  Reality is most of the knock off brands are very solid and will work very well for most home owner use. 

I found that the used market for compact tractors was strong and pricing wasn’t much better than new.   With that said, I have seen some screaming prices on used since I bought mine and a guy could save a pile of cash, especially when they come with many of the implements.

Offline Caseyd

  • Site Sponsor
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 2485
  • Location: Washington
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2021, 09:24:04 AM »
Since you’re not in a hurry you have the luxury of time. Browse used tractors and look for that deal.

Offline Mark Brenckle

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2010
  • Posts: 1357
  • Location: Arlington
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2021, 09:39:42 AM »
Any thoughts or experiences with LS brand? I see a ton of ads for them.

Offline Caseyd

  • Site Sponsor
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 2485
  • Location: Washington
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2021, 09:45:36 AM »
Any thoughts or experiences with LS brand? I see a ton of ads for them.

New Holland imports them, other then that I don’t know much.

If you went new, dealer location to me would come into play on which brand.

Offline Buckmark

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2008
  • Posts: 5261
  • Location: GPS is searching
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2021, 11:01:50 AM »
So i am going to change what i said before a bit.
It seems you are not ready to purchase a tractor, ie - No place to keep it? Or having to haul it back and forth for only a few times of limited use atleast in the first few years?Leaving it at the property i would not do.
It all boils down to really how much you will be using one and the logostics till you are there alot more in my experience.

I would rent, find a rental place near the property that rents and have a plan of what you want to get done and do it.
I did this for years because it was not cost effective to own one for 3 or 4 times a year when i needed it, i could rent a unit, trailer and implements when needed for at the time around 250 a day.

So i checked and Kubota and Deere only have 0% for 60mths now, Bota has .99 for 72 and 1.99 for 84, Deere has1.90 for 72 and i did not see anything for 84 so there is that
Doing simple math lets use 30k (may be more or less depending on machine etc, but not much), so 30k for the tractor, trailer and tax/financing if you go past 60mnths
So $500 per and 60, $417 at 72 or $358 at 84, plus shelling out for implements as you want them

Me i would buy a quad now and rent a machine to knock out stuff you want done now and buy when you are there more to maintain the place.
And make a tractor "payment" into my tractor down the road account  :twocents:

To hunt and butcher an animal is to recognize that meat is not some abstract form of protein that springs into existence tightly wrapped in cellophane and styrofoam.

Offline turkeyfeather

  • King Redneck
  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 4845
  • Location: Spokane Valley
  • Captain-Tree Hugger Harrasement Team
  • Groups: NWTF
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2021, 01:11:25 PM »
So i am going to change what i said before a bit.
It seems you are not ready to purchase a tractor, ie - No place to keep it? Or having to haul it back and forth for only a few times of limited use atleast in the first few years?Leaving it at the property i would not do.
It all boils down to really how much you will be using one and the logostics till you are there alot more in my experience.

I would rent, find a rental place near the property that rents and have a plan of what you want to get done and do it.
I did this for years because it was not cost effective to own one for 3 or 4 times a year when i needed it, i could rent a unit, trailer and implements when needed for at the time around 250 a day.

So i checked and Kubota and Deere only have 0% for 60mths now, Bota has .99 for 72 and 1.99 for 84, Deere has1.90 for 72 and i did not see anything for 84 so there is that
Doing simple math lets use 30k (may be more or less depending on machine etc, but not much), so 30k for the tractor, trailer and tax/financing if you go past 60mnths
So $500 per and 60, $417 at 72 or $358 at 84, plus shelling out for implements as you want them

Me i would buy a quad now and rent a machine to knock out stuff you want done now and buy when you are there more to maintain the place.
And make a tractor "payment" into my tractor down the road account  :twocents:
That is really great advice. Thank you
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an un-armed person.

Offline Macs B

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 50
  • Location: Yelm WA
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2021, 07:44:23 AM »
If you aren't going to live on the property then storage becomes an issue.  If you are set on buying, a 20 acre parcel that isn't too overgrown can be managed with a smaller tractor and brush hog.  The older John Deere 750, 850, or 950 (apprx 17-21 HP) in all wheel drive with a 70 model loader works great for smaller pieces of land.  Get yourself a smaller single axle equipment tilt load trailer and you can haul it all around behind your pickup no problem. 

If you have bigger brush and timber foliage to handle then start looking at the 30-40 HP models.  Quick attach loader gear and even front mowers are great for briars and bushes.
I delete my posts after two days.

I've never claimed to be a house painter or a mechanic so it always amazes me how many people want to claim to be a lawyer.

Offline Knocker of rocks

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 7608
  • Location: the Holocene, man
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2021, 07:50:49 AM »
If you aren't going to live on the property then storage becomes an issue.  If you are set on buying, a 20 acre parcel that isn't too overgrown can be managed with a smaller tractor and brush hog.  The older John Deere 750, 850, or 950 (apprx 17-21 HP) in all wheel drive with a 70 model loader works great for smaller pieces of land.  Get yourself a smaller single axle equipment tilt load trailer and you can haul it all around behind your pickup no problem. 

If you have bigger brush and timber foliage to handle then start looking at the 30-40 HP models.  Quick attach loader gear and even front mowers are great for briars and bushes.

The 950 is 31 hp. That’s what I have. Being a gear tractor, they are a little pain in the butt for loader work, but they are built to work. Mine likes a brush hog for hours with no touching the brakes the best.

Offline Macs B

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 50
  • Location: Yelm WA
Re: Tractor or quad?
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2021, 03:23:58 PM »
Typo'd the 21hp instead of 31hp.  They are great little tractors.  Plus they are all steel, not a bit of breakable on them.
I delete my posts after two days.

I've never claimed to be a house painter or a mechanic so it always amazes me how many people want to claim to be a lawyer.

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Cz p10c and 9mm ammo by woodswalker
[Today at 07:24:08 AM]


Best hunting preserves wa/or? by sliverthrower
[Today at 07:20:27 AM]


Best All Around Carry Pistol for Versatile Use by Cougartail
[Today at 07:13:46 AM]


ISO Alliant Bullseye Powder by 71Shovelhead
[Today at 07:02:37 AM]


What is your favorite .22?!!! by LongBomb
[Today at 06:57:41 AM]


Spring bear, 2021, DNRY by spoonman
[Today at 06:47:59 AM]


Modern rifle ML conversion. Why not? by GWP
[Today at 06:45:15 AM]


Post The Ammo/Reloading Supplies You Find In Stock Here! by HntnFsh
[Today at 06:11:53 AM]


FS: 6mm Creedmoor Ammo by DHB
[Today at 06:11:46 AM]


Cowlitz smelt season? by HntnFsh
[Today at 06:10:41 AM]


Kel Tec Sub 2K gen 2 Glock by CP
[Today at 05:46:04 AM]


For sale , '90-92 YJ jeep wrangler by Skyvalhunter
[Today at 05:17:29 AM]


New elk film by trophyhunt
[Today at 04:16:15 AM]


WTS - Nimrod Wilderness Pack by NateR
[Yesterday at 10:27:38 PM]


How to preserve antler color by paguy
[Yesterday at 10:26:13 PM]


RL12, RL17, RL19, RL25 & Win. 748 Ball Powders by Damnimissed
[Yesterday at 10:23:10 PM]


FS/FT 72" Tool Chest by buggy
[Yesterday at 10:07:29 PM]


Spring Bear with a bow? by Machias
[Yesterday at 09:44:06 PM]


WTS leupold binoculars by Drifterat
[Yesterday at 09:35:20 PM]


215 Berger’s 30cal by Nimrod
[Yesterday at 09:17:54 PM]