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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2022, 12:59:15 PM »
SHOT IQ if you want to understand the psychology of how we shoot and how to master it.  I had a few days hands on with him last week and it was amazing.  His techniques work very well.

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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2022, 01:31:41 PM »
I have no experience with https://moderndaysniper.com/ other than listening to some pod casts. It might be a bit more geared towards tactical than you are looking for, but they are hunters and have classes in Yakima. 

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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2022, 04:45:50 PM »
So, if you can off hand 100 yards but miss at 200, your limit is 100 ?? :o  What is your limit as I doubt many guys can make a 300 yard off hand shot there for limiting themselves to 200 yards by your method? 

Im guessing off hand is the weakest position for the majority of hunters and Ive read surveys that indicate the compromised position is the most oft used position by hunters, meaning they take advantage of what they can, stumps, rocks, branches, etc. 

If you have already satisfactorily dialed in your rifle from prone or bench, then if youre a paper plate type of guy, go for it.  Im not.  Never have bought into the paper plate pie pan bs in my whole life.   :twocents:

From what I have seen I would be willing to be less then 10% of hunters can hit 10" target at 100 Yards off hard.

learning basic Marksmanship https://bestpracticeguides.org.uk/firearms/marksmanship/

is very beneficial.

That starts with "knowing your rifle"
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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2022, 07:56:56 PM »
So, if you can off hand 100 yards but miss at 200, your limit is 100 ?? :o  What is your limit as I doubt many guys can make a 300 yard off hand shot there for limiting themselves to 200 yards by your method? 

Im guessing off hand is the weakest position for the majority of hunters and Ive read surveys that indicate the compromised position is the most oft used position by hunters, meaning they take advantage of what they can, stumps, rocks, branches, etc. 

If you have already satisfactorily dialed in your rifle from prone or bench, then if youre a paper plate type of guy, go for it.  Im not.  Never have bought into the paper plate pie pan bs in my whole life.   :twocents:
I also don't buy in to shooting a 1000 yards at a bench with bags ,rest,rifle clamped down,ect.
Then going out to the woods and shooting at game animals.
If you can off hand a 100 but not 200 then yes that might be starting point to practice .
Not every game animal is gonna be a perfect situation for you to lay in the dirt and shoot from your backpack.
In a perfect world ,you'll have time to rest your rifle,or carry shooting sticks everywhere.
I'm going out to practice my method tommorow.
Some folks do it this way ,some do it another.
I think we are going the same direction just different roads to get there.

Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2022, 08:13:17 PM »
Check out the Civilian Marksmanship Program. They're focused on service rifle match, but you will become a very proficient marksman.

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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2022, 04:46:15 AM »
Not sure if this is in the right forum but Iím looking for a rifle shooting course/class that would make me a better rifle shooter when elk hunting. Iíve checked on google but itís hard to vet stuff like this online before spending the money. Does anyone here have any recommendations?

Thanks!

When you shoot a target at 100 yards, what does your shot pattern look like? If I drew a circle around all of your shots, how big would it be? Are all the shots in one close area or are they all over the place?

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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2022, 06:10:02 AM »
Shotguns shoot a pattern. Rifles shoot a group.

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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2022, 11:13:41 AM »
Not sure if this is in the right forum but Iím looking for a rifle shooting course/class that would make me a better rifle shooter when elk hunting. Iíve checked on google but itís hard to vet stuff like this online before spending the money. Does anyone here have any recommendations?

Thanks!

When you shoot a target at 100 yards, what does your shot pattern look like? If I drew a circle around all of your shots, how big would it be? Are all the shots in one close area or are they all over the place?

The "gold standard" is a three shot group (with a normal hunting barrel) under 1 inch. fired from a bench rest at 100 yards. This is referred to as sub-moa. You might want to try different ammo to see which gets you the tightest groups. I'd get that done before moving on. Then do the same thing at 200 (sub-moa = under 2") and 300 (sub-moa = under 3"). Finding a range with distances beyond 300 yards will be hard.......I'm only aware of 300 yards at the range in Port Townsend. I think you need to know how your rifle performs at 300 yards. Once you have that information nailed down, then finding some instruction in how to shoot other than from a bench rest will be more productive. I like the range in Port Townsend because they have a truck tire surrounding a metal plate (100 yards)......good for shooting off hand, since you get instant feedback on your hits. It's not all that hard to shoot nice groups or hit a target offhand at 100 yards........getting yourself confident and comfortable enough to take a shot at an elk out beyond 300 yards is where I see the value of the instruction that you are talking about. By way of disclosure, I've never had this type of instruction, so my comments are those of a self taught amateur.

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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2022, 01:42:44 PM »
Shotguns shoot a pattern. Rifles shoot a group.

You never saw my Dad with his .300 BAR........  :chuckle:

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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2022, 06:06:37 PM »
Shotguns shoot a pattern. Rifles shoot a group.

You never saw my Dad with his .300 BAR........  :chuckle:

That is funny  :tup:
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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2022, 05:03:06 PM »
IDK if Lakeview is "local," but Clint and crew are some of the best. I took their Urban Rifle class. So much fun. So much learning.

https://thunderranchinc.com/mid-range-rifle
https://thunderranchinc.com/high-angle-rifle-training
https://thunderranchinc.com/the-hunt

Luke Carrick at Guideright Adventures used to hold a wilderness hunting/shooting class. The website says its down for maintenance, but the FB page is still up as is this Youtube: 
IDK the quality nor anyone who has taken that course.

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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2022, 06:52:47 PM »
+1 for Modern Day Sniper.

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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2022, 07:44:04 PM »
SHOT IQ if you want to understand the psychology of how we shoot and how to master it.  I had a few days hands on with him last week and it was amazing.  His techniques work very well.

Another vote for ShotIQ.  Some of the best money you can spend.
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Re: Rifle Shooting Course
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2022, 03:39:24 AM »
IDK if Lakeview is "local," but Clint and crew are some of the best. I took their Urban Rifle class. So much fun. So much learning.

https://thunderranchinc.com/mid-range-rifle
https://thunderranchinc.com/high-angle-rifle-training
https://thunderranchinc.com/the-hunt

Luke Carrick at Guideright Adventures used to hold a wilderness hunting/shooting class. The website says its down for maintenance, but the FB page is still up as is this Youtube: 
IDK the quality nor anyone who has taken that course.

Thanks for this! Iíll check them out

 


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