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purchasing a muzzleloader
« on: October 03, 2023, 09:39:33 AM »
I am looking to purchase a muzzleloader for the 2024 season (if we still have one the way the damn state is trying to steal our rights!)

I am honed in on the accura guns. I like the paramount pro v 2 but am wondering if it is necessary over the accura LR-x or even MR-X considering we cant use scopes which limits range anyways.

second question is caliber. I am leaning towards a 45 caliber but wanted input on this.

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2023, 09:59:30 AM »
The Accura is a solid option.

There are a lot more options for bullets in 50 cal. Just looking at muzzle-loaders.com there are (53) options in 50 cal and (6) options in 45 cal.

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2023, 01:10:46 PM »
45 caliber you can't hunt elk. Good reason to get the 50 cal

oh, i wondered about this but didnt see anything in the regs. why is this the 45 cal seems to have plenty of energy

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2023, 01:16:41 PM »
45 caliber you can't hunt elk. Good reason to get the 50 cal
this is not correct. You can absolutely use a .45 for elk .40 cal min for deer and .45 cal min for all other big game.
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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2023, 01:17:40 PM »
45 caliber you can't hunt elk. Good reason to get the 50 cal

oh, i wondered about this but didnt see anything in the regs. why is this the 45 cal seems to have plenty of energy
I have to correct myself there. I was wrong. 45 cal is the legal minimum for elk bears etc, while the minimum for deer is 40 cal. Sorry in that case 45 might be great

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2023, 01:18:51 PM »
ha, thanks. yeah I really want the 45 caliber for the flatter trajectory.

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2023, 01:19:26 PM »
45 caliber you can't hunt elk. Good reason to get the 50 cal
this is not correct. You can absolutely use a .45 for elk .40 cal min for deer and .45 cal min for all other big game.
Beat me to it by about a minute. Whoops

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2023, 01:19:34 PM »
45 caliber you can't hunt elk. Good reason to get the 50 cal

According to the game regs:

b. A muzzleloading shotgun or rife used for
deer must be .40 caliber or larger. Buckshot
size #1 or larger may be used in a smooth-bore
of .60 caliber or larger for deer.
c. A muzzleloading shotgun, rife, or handgun
used for all other big game must be .45
caliber or larger.
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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2023, 01:31:07 PM »
I'm shooting the Accura LR-X .50 cal with a 250 grain saboted bullet.  I have the Western Sight on it and it shoots pretty darn flat.  I am zeroed at 100 yards and it is 12-13 inches low at 200 yards.  This is 100 grain by volume of Blackhorn powder and 209 primers.  It is super accurate and a joy to shoot. 

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2023, 01:34:50 PM »
I'm shooting the Accura LR-X .50 cal with a 250 grain saboted bullet.  I have the Western Sight on it and it shoots pretty darn flat.  I am zeroed at 100 yards and it is 12-13 inches low at 200 yards.  This is 100 grain by volume of Blackhorn powder and 209 primers.  It is super accurate and a joy to shoot.

am  I reading tht correctly that its actually a 45 caliber bullet?

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2023, 01:42:49 PM »
Make sure to take a look at the Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader.  It is a solid accurate muzzleloader.  It can shoot up to 200 grains of powder and capable of a 300 yard shot.  They are well worth the money.  If you happen to go that route message me and i will point you in the rite way of what bullet and powder combo to use.

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2023, 01:43:37 PM »
I'm shooting the Accura LR-X .50 cal with a 250 grain saboted bullet.  I have the Western Sight on it and it shoots pretty darn flat.  I am zeroed at 100 yards and it is 12-13 inches low at 200 yards.  This is 100 grain by volume of Blackhorn powder and 209 primers.  It is super accurate and a joy to shoot.

am  I reading tht correctly that its actually a 45 caliber bullet?

Yes, I can't remember if it is the .451 or the .458.....I could measure.  Regardless, all 50 cal muzzy's that shoot saboted bullets will shoot .45 call bullets.  The actual size bullet will dictate which sabot to use with which bullet.  If you buy the bullet sabot combo, it usually does not matter unless you have a tighter, or looser, bore than usual. 

Hope that makes sense. 

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2023, 01:47:44 PM »
Make sure to take a look at the Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader.  It is a solid accurate muzzleloader.  It can shoot up to 200 grains of powder and capable of a 300 yard shot.  They are well worth the money.  If you happen to go that route message me and i will point you in the rite way of what bullet and powder combo to use.

I researched that one as well, and looks like a great gun as well, seems very comparable to the CVA but is it only available in 50 cal? also, the CVA LR-X is significantly cheaper. I think the Remington better compares with the  paramount

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2023, 02:18:56 PM »
ha, thanks. yeah I really want the 45 caliber for the flatter trajectory.

In the world of muzzleloaders and muzzleloader range trajectory would be the least of my concerns.

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Re: purchasing a muzzleloader
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2023, 02:19:52 PM »
ha, thanks. yeah I really want the 45 caliber for the flatter trajectory.

In the world of muzzleloaders and muzzleloader range trajectory would be the least of my concerns.

can you elaborate? I would like the ability to shoot to 200 yards. with open sights that is probably the limint

 


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