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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2024, 01:24:30 PM »
All this glass quality talk makes me feel the need to remind everyone that the ONLY two attributes that matter with a scope is reliability of tracking and zero retention. Every scope on the market and certainly the ones in this price point have adequate optical clarity to put rounds on target during legal hunting light but only of those other two functions are reliable.
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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2024, 01:38:13 PM »
All this glass quality talk makes me feel the need to remind everyone that the ONLY two attributes that matter with a scope is reliability of tracking and zero retention. Every scope on the market and certainly the ones in this price point have adequate optical clarity to put rounds on target during legal hunting light but only of those other two functions are reliable.

I do understand what you are saying. Reticle is more important to me than glass quality but you are right and the only reason Im moving on from 3 VX5's is reliabilty. They have never let me down on an animal but why chance it. I put a lot of trigger time in and same with load development and I bust my ass so if I ever miss I want it to be my fault not the scopes
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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2024, 01:53:17 PM »
All this glass quality talk makes me feel the need to remind everyone that the ONLY two attributes that matter with a scope is reliability of tracking and zero retention. Every scope on the market and certainly the ones in this price point have adequate optical clarity to put rounds on target during legal hunting light but only of those other two functions are reliable.

I do understand what you are saying. Reticle is more important to me than glass quality but you are right and the only reason Im moving on from 3 VX5's is reliabilty. They have never let me down on an animal but why chance it. I put a lot of trigger time in and same with load development and I bust my ass so if I ever miss I want it to be my fault not the scopes
For sure and I hope you didn't take my statement as critiquing you specifically.  Just saw an opportunity to make a general statement I feel is important to point out for anyone reading this.  :tup:
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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2024, 01:55:53 PM »
All this glass quality talk makes me feel the need to remind everyone that the ONLY two attributes that matter with a scope is reliability of tracking and zero retention. Every scope on the market and certainly the ones in this price point have adequate optical clarity to put rounds on target during legal hunting light but only of those other two functions are reliable.

I do understand what you are saying. Reticle is more important to me than glass quality but you are right and the only reason Im moving on from 3 VX5's is reliabilty. They have never let me down on an animal but why chance it. I put a lot of trigger time in and same with load development and I bust my ass so if I ever miss I want it to be my fault not the scopes
For sure and I hope you didn't take my statement as critiquing you specifically.  Just saw an opportunity to make a general statement I feel is important to point out for anyone reading this.  :tup:

No offense taken at all. I appreciate the input
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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2024, 04:37:08 PM »
All this glass quality talk makes me feel the need to remind everyone that the ONLY two attributes that matter with a scope is reliability of tracking and zero retention. Every scope on the market and certainly the ones in this price point have adequate optical clarity to put rounds on target during legal hunting light but only of those other two functions are reliable.

Bingo!  That's why I always suggest to folks if they can find a good clean used NXS with zero stops and save themselves around a grand or more depending on the model that's just that much more they can spend on components or other stuff.

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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2024, 12:18:23 PM »
Im picking up a used Leica Amplus and a used NXS. Ill run them through the paces and see what I like dont like and how they track

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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2024, 02:43:11 PM »
You will love the NXS! What reticle?
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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2024, 03:04:02 PM »
Its the 5.5-22X50 MOAR

The Leica is the Amplus 6 3-18X44 L 4w
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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2024, 04:03:49 PM »
We have the same nightforce on my duaghters 6.5 creed.  Excellent scope!!

Curious to here the review on the Leica. 

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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2024, 04:31:01 PM »
I'll let you know
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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2024, 05:11:11 PM »
Are any of these scopes noticeably better or worse at staying fog free in wet conditions?

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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2024, 06:34:14 AM »
I have never had any of my Nightforce scopes fog up. Never owned a Leica scope , but have never had my Leica bino / range finder fog up either
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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2024, 01:33:51 PM »
Its the 5.5-22X50 MOAR

Bang for your buck that particular scope is about as good as it gets.  If you're coming from a more basic reticle like a duplex or similar the reticle in that NF may seem a little busy at first but it won't take long and you won't really even notice it but if you spend a little time to learn it and how it applies to the rifle you have it on you'll come to love.

If every rifle I owned had that scope on it, well, there'd be worse things to complain about that's for sure.

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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2024, 04:39:11 PM »
In the latest S2H podcast, Form ran through all of the scopes that have passed or partially passed (partially failed you could say) the drop eval. Any of their podcasts with Form on them are 100% worth the listen. I also liked the one with the Hornady guys.

https://shoot2hunt.com/
https://rokslide.com/forums/forums/rifle-scope-field-evaluations.133/

A quality scope that is likely to maintain zero is no use if it moves around in the rings, so I also follow his scope mounting procedure. Though I believe he's seen issues with 18 in/lbs in several of the drop evals and torque values above the manufacturer recommended often fix the issue. Think he goes at least 22 in/lbs, if not 25+.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/scope-mounting-to-maintain-zero.78482/

Lots of guys on Rokslide running the SWFA's for hunting. Biggest problem with SWFA right now is they are out of stock on many items and not allowing backorders, indicating they may be updating some designs. But they have been pretty secretive so no idea what's really going on there.

I'm looking at going with the Maven RS1.2 MIL to replace my Zeiss v4. Though he did tease a scope or scopes "in the works" at the end of the latest podcast...

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Re: Advice on hunting scopes with quality turrets
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2024, 05:40:57 PM »
In the latest S2H podcast, Form ran through all of the scopes that have passed or partially passed (partially failed you could say) the drop eval. Any of their podcasts with Form on them are 100% worth the listen. I also liked the one with the Hornady guys.

https://shoot2hunt.com/
https://rokslide.com/forums/forums/rifle-scope-field-evaluations.133/

A quality scope that is likely to maintain zero is no use if it moves around in the rings, so I also follow his scope mounting procedure. Though I believe he's seen issues with 18 in/lbs in several of the drop evals and torque values above the manufacturer recommended often fix the issue. Think he goes at least 22 in/lbs, if not 25+.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/scope-mounting-to-maintain-zero.78482/

Lots of guys on Rokslide running the SWFA's for hunting. Biggest problem with SWFA right now is they are out of stock on many items and not allowing backorders, indicating they may be updating some designs. But they have been pretty secretive so no idea what's really going on there.

I'm looking at going with the Maven RS1.2 MIL to replace my Zeiss v4. Though he did tease a scope or scopes "in the works" at the end of the latest podcast...

Great info
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