coyote

[Humptulips]

Caught a $500 coyote today. Set traps Thursday and nothing 'till today. Forgot to take pictures. He wasn't much to look at anyway.

Here is what I'm posting about though. This job is inside a fence. Entire property fenced with 5 foot high woven wire topped with a double strand of barbed wire. Wire is buried at the bottom and well maintained. Access by two electronic gates with vertical bars 4" wide between bars.

So how are the coyotes getting in? Anybody have experience with coyotes climbing fence or are they able to squeeze through the gate?

[buckybuster]

I have had coyotes jump a 5' fence when snared (when we could use snares),
 so I would think its possible

[Humptulips]

5 feet of woven wire but with the barbed wire at least 6 feet high. Do you think they could squeeze through a 4 inch wide slot in the gates?

[JimmyHoffa]

Probably climbed up the fence.  I've know of dogs that would climb up chain link to escape the kennel.  They climb to the top and then jump off.

[Jack Diamond]

I'm more interested in the woven fence. Like 4x6 ??         And what was the Coyote eating that was worth the $ 500.00. Just curious and is there a gap under the gate??

[Machias]

He has the gate code.   

[rasbo]

that was the homeowners dog Bruce

[pnwmtnmn]

Agree with Ted, a 6 foot high jump not a problem for a coyote, but the question is why was he going to the trouble? I mean usually they are running from bullets when they jump that high, or getting food.

[Humptulips]

They might be climbing the fence but not the gate,smooth vertical bars. 2x4 wire and no gaps under the gates. The fence is tight and no dig unders.
I actually got paid earlier to advise them on keeping the coyotes out. Per my suggestion they made some improvements on the gates and replaced about 300 feet of fence. These people have money and they are spending it to protect a lap dog. 50 acres fenced like this so an extra $500 seems not to matter.

Why are the coyotes or coyote getting in? The place really doesn't look that atractive to a coyote, no stock and not much wildlife. It is mostly second growth spruce and hemlock about 50 or 60 years old, pretty barren under the trees.
The reason I think the coyotes are in there is it is a travel way. This is right on the beach. 200 foot wide strip of beach grass  along the beach for them to hunt. The uplands are a jungle except this place which has manicured trails that connect the beach and newer logged areas across the highway from the driveway. The rest of the beach land is either houses or bluffs.
I kind of lean towards them going through the gate but not sure if they can squeeze through a 4 inch slot.
I've checked the fence and didn't see anything obvious. Thought maybe I might see some fur on the barbed wire if they were climbing over but nothing.
I already suggested they screen the gates but I'm still pondering.

[Jack Diamond]

My vote is a stretched spot in the fence, that is if is woven wire(aka hog wire) coyotes do not jump 5 ft fences every day. Usually through or under.

[SunnySlopes]

I used to snare alot of fences around here. I don't know the size of your mesh on your fence, Bruce, but coyotes can easliy slip through 4" hog wire/deer fence. I've seen the tracks on the snow, and have caught those coyotes in the same 4" square their next pass through. With an adult the 4" square will be slightly pooched out especally if used multiple times. Easyer for the coyote to slip through a square than to dig under the buried fence, (until they have some time for the fence to age and for them to get accustomed to it and dig a permanant crawl through, or push a deer or horse trough the fence to create their hole. I think the 4" gap in gate is no problem for the coyote either. Easely fixed though.
At $500 each I think I'd just leave that gate open!

[Jack Diamond]

Also my experience with woven
Wire and sheep killing coyotes

[Humptulips]

No way they are squeezing through the mesh of the fence, 2"x4" mesh.

I went and looked at that coyote today and measured him. At his widest point he is 5" wide and that is afet rigormortice has set in. I think now a coyote could squeeze through tose gates no problem.

Eric,
Yea leave the gate open  . Even though the guy is rich I don't think he would go for that .

[fast60eddie]

It probably just walked in unnoticed during a remote gate opening.

[JimmyHoffa]

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[TheNoob]

I dont think the Yote is climing the fence, the fence would have to be extremely tight and then it would still have to find a way over the barbwire. If there are any shrubery type trees close to the fence then maybe it is using that to get over. It might be where the gate and what ever kind of post it is attached to might have just a big enough opening to get through. As long as it can get its head through then it will squeeze through.

[whitey]

It doesnt take much of a depression under the fence for a mutt to climb under. I also have done a chit load of snareing and have caught them coming under in spots that blew me away.

[Skyvalhunter]

How do they taste?

[dontgetcrabs]

How do they taste?

Like chicken. 

[Gringo31]

50 acres?

Are you sure they aren't fenced in?


When was the last time you walked and checked the fence?  If they are complaining about a coyote, they must see one.....why can't they pressure it and tell you which way it exits?

[scottcrb]

set up a game camera or two and you'll know if hes getting through the fence or gate ,

[seth30]

set up a game camera or two and you'll know if hes getting through the fence or gate ,

[whitey]

How do they taste?

How do they taste?

Like chicken. 

The other "White Meat"

[JimmyHoffa]

What about digging a deep hole under, like they do for burrows?

[Humptulips]

I'm 100% sure they are not getting through or under the fence. If you saw the fence you would know why I say this. Also they have a grounds keeper walking the fence and checking every day. Not my idea but reinforces my confidence in the fence. They are going to screen the gates.
Coyotes are just around occasionally apparently so I wait.

[Jack Diamond]

The groundskeeper may not have a clue what to look for, unless he has experience
With yotes, obviously he doesn't that's why they are paying you. 14 jailers couldn't figure out how prisoners were escaping out of a Grant county security fenced enclosure, one cowgirl guard spotted the problem
if you have not walked and examined the fence yourself(you did not say) you should. Ya really got to know what you are looking for.    Can catch some pups ready for transplant if you need a partner :-) Fred

[Humptulips]

The groundskeeper may not have a clue what to look for, unless he has experience
With yotes, obviously he doesn't that's why they are paying you. 14 jailers couldn't figure out how prisoners were escaping out of a Grant county security fenced enclosure, one cowgirl guard spotted the problem
if you have not walked and examined the fence yourself(you did not say) you should. Ya really got to know what you are looking for.    Can catch some pups ready for transplant if you need a partner :-) Fred

Fred,
I got paid $100 to walk the fenceline. It's tight. They did rebuild some fence per my suggestion. Boggles my mind how much they are willing to spend for a yapping lap dog.

[SunnySlopes]

Ya know Bruce, Fred's got a good plan there. Everybody knows a coyote pair can have 20-30 pups. If you could get him to make a delivery soon you could sneak em in a few at a time in your lunchbox.

[castor gitter]

Heck all the ones I've seen lately are big! Bruce would need to have a good sized lunch box . As per what was said above I agree with modifying the gate and walking the whole line again just in case. Also could be with that much acreage that the darn thing was fenced in when they made all the fence improvements?