Hopefully you can get one with your permit, if not you should have some great information to get back there in the late season and chase them with the rest of the general tag holders. I have a cabin up there all you have to do is just wait until dark, you will hear the bulls screaming all night long, go back at sun up and you will find the cows. Around my place things get real active starting Sept 12-14, that's right up against the end of you permit but don't give up when it turns on it gets crazy.