High hunt question

[j.galloway]

I have looked up this bit quit a bit, the high hunt, hunting areas.

Alpine Lakes, Glacier Peak, Pasayten, Olympic Peninsula, and Henry Jackson Wilderness Areas and Lake Chelan Recreation Area

High Buck Hunts
(See page 94 for information on U.S. Forest Service maps

From other posts it sounds like National Forest counts as wilderness area and as a 'hunt-able' area, for high hunt.
So double checking, just to be sure, is that true NF are areas for high hunt? specifically for the Olympic Peninsula

[jason4429]

Look on pg 19.It says"Alpine Lakes,Glacier Peaks,Pasayten,Olympic Peninsula,and Henry Jackson Wilderness Areas" Wilderness areas are designated areas inside of the National forest.

[j.galloway]

ok wilderness areas...

According to this:
http://www.wilderness.net/index.cfm?fuse=NWPS&sec=geography&letter=O#tabs-4
http://www.wilderness.net/map.cfm

and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Wilderness

Looks like olympic wilderness is...... the National Park?
Thought NP was absolutely no hunting, no weapons ext..  Think I am getting really mixed up as to land ownership...
Is that right, or preferably point to a map that puts an X over areas to allowed to hunt

Sorry if this seems so basic, but I wanna make sure I'm doing everything legally

[xd2005]

My understanding is that it's the green areas on this map. There are multiple ones on the Olympic Penninsula.

http://www.wilderness.net/map.cfm?xmin=-13705711.2544&ymin=6019433.6904&xmax=-13705711.2544&ymax=6152722.0507

[bobcat]

That map shows them pretty well (the one xd2005 posted).

Here's another page that's worth looking at:

http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/olympic/maps-pubs/?cid=fsbdev3_049535

[Bob33]

The National Parks are not wilderness areas as described here. No hunting in them.

[JimmyHoffa]

The areas it is referring to are Col Bob WA, Mt Skokomish WA, The Brothers WA, Buckhorn WA South and North.  WDFW is just lumping them all together as Olympic WA.  The park is called Olympic WA but definitely not gonna be happy if anyone hunts there.
All the legal areas are USFS.  You can probably find the maps you need or just ask more questions.  If the Wild Olympics bill in congress passes there will be more wilderness areas on the west end and it will add to all the ones that exist now.

[Knocker of rocks]

1) Except (possibly) in Alaska, and definitely in small parts of Teddy Roosevelt and Grand Teton National Parks, hunting is not allowed in National Parks.  Hunting is allowed in National Recreation Areas, chief among these in Washington is Ross Lake and Lake Chelan NRA's.

2) Wilderness is a land management designation of Federal lands, and can be applied to any Federal land which meets the definition, and is declared a Wilderness by Congress.  Wilderness's can be found in USFS, BLM, National Parks, National Monument and probably National Reserves.  The Wilderness will be administered by the Agency which is the land administrator.  Meaning, USFS administrates USFS Wilderness, ditto with the NPS.

3) The majority of Olympic and Mount Rainier NP's are declared Wilderness.  The whole (or almost ) of North Cascades National Park is Wilderness.  There is a slew of USFS Wilderness in the Cascades including the large Glacier Peak, Alpine Lakes and Pasayten.  Contiguous to Glacier Peak is the Henry M Jackson, Boulder River and maybe some more.

The Southern Cascades have a  number of Wilderness, including Goat Rocks.

Most of Olympic National Park is comprised of the Olympic Wilderness.  Contiguous to these, but under USFS are the Colonel Bob, Skokomish and Buckhorn Wildernesses.  Hunting is allowed in these latter three

[xd2005]

What about The Brothers Wlderness?

[Knocker of rocks]

What about it?  It is USFS

[xd2005]

Just didn't see in on your list, so was curious why...

[Knocker of rocks]

Cause I did everything off the top of my head.  I bet there are more than thirty wilderness areas in Washington, and many of them are additions and otherwise contiguous to older larger Wilderness areas

[Bob33]

Alpine Lakes Wilderness
Boulder River Wilderness
Buckhorn Wilderness
Clearwater Wilderness
Colonel Bob Wilderness
Glacier Peak Wilderness
Glacier View Wilderness
Goat Rocks Wilderness
Henry M. Jackson Wilderness
Indian Heaven Wilderness
Juniper Dunes Wilderness
Lake Chelan-Sawtooth Wilderness
Mount Adams Wilderness
Mount Baker Wilderness
Mount Rainier Wilderness
Mount Skokomish Wilderness
Noisy-Diobsud Wilderness
Norse Peak Wilderness
Olympic Wilderness
Pasayten Wilderness
Salmo-Priest Wilderness
San Juan Wilderness
Stephen Mather Wilderness
Tatoosh Wilderness
The Brothers Wilderness
Trapper Creek Wilderness
Washington Islands Wilderness
Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness
Wild Sky Wilderness
William O. Douglas Wilderness
Wonder Mountain Wilderness

[Knocker of rocks]

Thanks Bob,  of that list only Mount Rainier and Olympic are wholly in NP's.  Stephen Mather is complicated, and lies in NCNP and at least one NRA.

I wouldn't hazard a guess about the legality of hunting in the water wilderness's

[B-Nut]

Just to make sure I understand the only high buck hunts are in the wilderness areas that are mentioned in the regs. That would mean Mt. Baker wilderness area does not count.

[bobcat]

Just to make sure I understand the only high buck hunts are in the wilderness areas that are mentioned in the regs. That would mean Mt. Baker wilderness area does not count.

Correct. The majority of the wilderness areas in Bob33's post, are NOT open for the high hunt.

[B-Nut]

Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to miss out on the early hunt with Baker being in my backyard. Thanks for the confirmation.

[Bob33]

Mt. Baker is not an Olympic wilderness, nor one of the named wildernesses open to the high hunt.

[j.galloway]

The areas it is referring to are Col Bob WA, Mt Skokomish WA, The Brothers WA, Buckhorn WA South and North.  WDFW is just lumping them all together as Olympic WA.  The park is called Olympic WA but definitely not gonna be happy if anyone hunts there.
All the legal areas are USFS.  You can probably find the maps you need or just ask more questions.  If the Wild Olympics bill in congress passes there will be more wilderness areas on the west end and it will add to all the ones that exist now.

ahhhh that explains that,

I thought NP was off limits, it didn't seem right.

Have been all over NF and NP, but haven't seen that area yet, that and a broken foot might make it hard for a high hunt this year