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Dangerous?
« on: September 22, 2012, 01:34:54 PM »
So have an In-line muzzy that still has last years powder pellets and bullet in it.  After putting away the gun for the season I totally forgot about that it was still loaded.  I know VERY dumb on my part.  :bash: I have only one year under my belt using a muzzleloader, so I am inexperienced.  Heres my situation...  I unscrewed the breach plug out of the gun and along with that came about 20-25 grains of pellet that was stuck in the other side of the breach plug.  With the breach plug out I used my ramrod to try a force out the rest of the powder and bullet towards the muzzle of the gun.  No luck.  I added some solvent to try and loosen it up. Let it sit for about 10 minutes and tried to force it out again.  Nothing moved.  I thought that maybe a bullet puller would do the trick so I called down to a sporting goods store here in town and they told me to add about 10 grains of loose powder, screw in the breach plug and nipple and shoot it.  This makes me really nervous because that bullet that is in there is super tight. I cant get it to move either direction with all my force using the ramrod.  Does this sound like it would work? Is it safe? Or should I try something else?  :dunno:

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2012, 01:38:35 PM »
Ide ask the guy that told you to do that to come show you.. I wouldnt if that bullet has in anyway become lodged, you could definetly get hurt. Keep trying to push the load back down and out the breach, it should come, if not get a puller or used compressed air.

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 01:54:50 PM »
I would put a wad down the top end and tap it with a hammer instead of shooting, just me. avoid scratching.
 
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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 02:01:45 PM »
What kind of ramrod do you have?  Is it metal or composite or wood? If it is metal I would slide the ram rod down the barrell and then use the weight of the barrell gently hammer down on the ram rod. I would first soak it with some warm soap water or some sort of cleaning solvent to help break it loose. I would not try and shoot it out, bad idea.

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2012, 02:03:51 PM »
Last time i shot my inline it had been loaded for 2 seasons. it always goes boom~!

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2012, 02:29:09 PM »
Prior to taking the breach plug out, I bet you could have shot it and it would have been fine.  Now, I would follow the advise of soap, water, soak and then hammer out with a metal ramrod. 

What kind of gun is it?  I will give you $50 and take a gamble if you want to get rid of it??

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2012, 02:36:50 PM »
Take the bullet puller and insert in where breach plug goes and screw in and remove, the powder will fall out breach reapeat till you're confident most of the powder has came out then remove and push bullet out the barrel from breach to muzzle!

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2012, 02:55:00 PM »
Its a traditions evolution. I tried the solvent and warm water with no luck. Just picked up a bullet puller. Got it into the bullet and couldn't move it. My ramrod is metal and when I put all my force onto it to push the bullet out it actually bent it a little!  :bash: Most of the powder is out now. Whats left of powder is wet with solvent and water. Frustrating

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2012, 02:56:17 PM »

What kind of gun is it?  I will give you $50 and take a gamble if you want to get rid of it??

Cant get rid of it. My elk hunt is in 2 weeks!  :yike: I was planning on shooting it tomorrow so I wanted to clean it today.

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2012, 02:57:31 PM »
Screw the bullet puller in, clamp the ram rod down in a vise, and pull using the barrel.
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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2012, 02:58:46 PM »
What kind of bullet is it?  You could always heat the barrel very slowly...this will expand metal and then try and tap it out.  I cannot believe a bullet would be this hard to remove after one year if the gun was otherwise stored properly....warm, dry area. 

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2012, 03:09:17 PM »
 :whoo: I got it! It was a 295 grain maxiball. Using solvent I put in from the breach I let it sit for 10 minutes. Inserted the ramrod from the breach side a hit it with a hammer.  It did not come out easy but its out now! AHHHHHHHH now I can relax. Thanks guys for all the help. Much appreciated! I will definitely remember to clean it before storing it this year!

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2012, 03:31:08 PM »
So have an In-line muzzy that still has last years powder pellets and bullet in it.  After putting away the gun for the season I totally forgot about that it was still loaded.  I know VERY dumb on my part.  :bash: I have only one year under my belt using a muzzleloader, so I am inexperienced.  Heres my situation...  I unscrewed the breach plug out of the gun and along with that came about 20-25 grains of pellet that was stuck in the other side of the breach plug.  With the breach plug out I used my ramrod to try a force out the rest of the powder and bullet towards the muzzle of the gun.  No luck.

It would be my suggestions to push it out the breech end of the barrel... pushing it back up out the muzzle could ve very tedious....  You may have to get a wood dowel to move it back down unless you have a very good range rod.

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  I added some solvent to try and loosen it up. Let it sit for about 10 minutes and tried to force it out again.  Nothing moved.  I thought that maybe a bullet puller would do the trick so I called down to a sporting goods store here in town and they told me to add about 10 grains of loose powder, screw in the breach plug and nipple and shoot it.  This makes me really nervous because that bullet that is in there is super tight. I cant get it to move either direction with all my force using the ramrod.  Does this sound like it would work? Is it safe? Or should I try something else?  :dunno:

At this point I am not sure I would want to shoot it out... I think you are much better off to force the bullet out the breech.  I believe you will get it to move back down the barrel but it will also get some what hung up as it starts out of the breech and contacts the threads in the bore.

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2012, 03:46:19 PM »
I had a buddy with this problem last year. I Cleaned the old powder out, put fresh back in put the breach plug back on and boom. worked fine but a little more kick but not bad.

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Re: Dangerous?
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2012, 02:58:45 PM »
another thing to think about in regards to black powder safety here is that black powder doesn't break down like gun powder does in water.  Once black powder dries out it is just as dangerous as it was before if not more so in some instances.

 


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