An instructor sure pissed me off today!

[dscubame]

yep your opinion is clear as well.

[stuckalot]

That's a shame, isn't the main reason people get into hunter ed instruction to get more people involved in the activity they love and to better the "sport" for all? At least that would be my motivation if I was an instructor, its not like this was a freaking navy seals tryout or something. If this guys wants to get all power tripped up then yea, I guess that's his right. But I feel he screwed the pooch on this one. Good luck to you and your wife, I hope she is able to hunt this year!

Unfortunately my experience with "instructors" has often been that it's more about the instructor, than actually educating people.  Or promoting their sport, industry, or safety.

[steen]

Ours is pretty informal and some late comers are usually let in.  The kids class is a mottos stricter and they usually make up some time. Our head instructed is the owner of the local sports shop and can take them in the store to make up a class or take the test.  I took my hunter saftey test with someone who would flunk anyone who pointed the muzzle at him.  We teach as we go and run some thru more than once.  Ultamately the parent is responsible and we r countered but some without parent support will have to wait and those who don't want to listen to instruction or a child that is not big enough to hold a firearm. Every case is different but try our best to help everyone to pass.  The worst are attitude problems.  Every class is started out saying" this is not school and every student can choose to be in the class or not (good attitude and ready to learn) and the instructors are here to teach those who want to be here.  Cheating on tests is not tolerated. I guess every instructor group is different.  I enjoy teaching the kids while doing the hands on test, that's mostly what I do with one other instructor.,

[Kola16]

I could have skipped the whole hunters safety course, and not missed a thing. The "little" instructor should have just let them in. It isn't like they missed anything. He didn't have to go back, and repeat himself.

[Kola16]

Not that I care one way or the other about the class, but reading this I can see who has never been in the military. Try 15 minutes late to formation and see how important or not it is. 15 minutes late to work every week? Guess why you are not getting the raise and promotion the guy who isn't 15 minutes late gets. May seem like no big deal, but it is.

This isn't the military. This is a safety class that tells the obvious.

Several people were there on time and you being late is disrupting their class.

Really? Is it that disturbing to open and close a door. Ok.

[winshooter88]

Maybe all the guys that think that the instructor should have been OK with students being late should go through the instructors training so they can run classes and be as tolerant as they like about participants being late. There haven't been any people other than the OP who said that they were at the Chelan class, so how can you guys know what was or wasn't going on 15 minutes into the class? I know several hunters ed instructors, and used to be one myself, so I know what kind of time and commitment these classes take. None of the guys I know or taught with would accept students that were 15 minutes late. It definitely disrupts the class. I sympathize with the OP's situation, but to say the instructor had no reason or was just being an a**doesn't make any sense.

[Kola16]

I am almost always on time for everything. Why does this matter? It doesn't. If I were to schedule something like a barbecue , and someone were to show up late, who cares. They probably had a good reason that they were late, and if they didn't, who cares? They didn't miss a thing if they were 15 minutes late. He didn't drag his a$$ anyway. He couldn't drop off his kid that early.

[shoot-em-dead]

In all fairness- I would have sent your wife packing after the 1 minute mark. Why couldn't you have stayed home with YOUR CHILD and have your adult wife drive herself over and be early. Your strep throat BS really ticks me off. I get it 3 to 5 times a year and after 48 hours on antibiotics I feel normal so no excuse for that either. Crying doesn't work for any of my kids and I would have made damn sure she was gone after the first tear.

Really dude- Sit back and read how childish this whole thread is and realize that you have some growing up to do. You were late for a class because you didn't prepare and now your lashing out at the wdfw- the instructor- and anyone else who does not side with you. You asked if I have ever been 15 minutes late, well yes I have and I also have accepted the consequences instead of playing the woe is me BS that you are doing here.

[stuckalot]

Wow the whole hollier than thou crowd is out tonight!
Should he have found a way to be there on time? Yes
Did the instructor have the right to turn them away? Yes
Is this the damn military? NO
Is this anybody's livelihood? NO

The point of the hunter Ed program should be to teach people safety the fundamentals of responsible hunting, and promote new people getting into our sport! Not whether or not they were a few minutes late, or made a mistake during their field evaluation. The "these are my rules" and you'll have to try again next year types do nothing but drive people away from our sport!  That kid that got turned away likely won't get to hunt this year, by next year with all of the other pressures and activities that kids have out there he may not want to go through that "crap" again and we've lost one more kid!

But by god rules are rules!

[TangoU]

Could the instructor have let you in? Sure. But he doesn't have to. He's not an arse for not letting you be late.

Who's responsibility is it to be on time? Yours.  This is clear cut. Don't blame the GPS.  Take responsibility for your own actions.

I had a job candidate show up late for the interview because he couldn't find my office.  Guess what? I sent him packing right when he arrived.  Maybe he should have figured out where my office was the day before. 

[salmonslayer]

Could the instructor have let you in? Sure. But he doesn't have to. He's not an arse for not letting you be late.

Who's responsibility is it to be on time? Yours.  This is clear cut. Don't blame the GPS.  Take responsibility for your own actions.

I had a job candidate show up late for the interview because he couldn't find my office.  Guess what? I sent him packing right when he arrived.  Maybe he should have figured out where my office was the day before. 

Actually him not letting him in DOES make him an arse according to 80% of the responses on here.  Take a look in the mirror...are you the guy yelling at kids to stay off your lawn? 

This wasn't a job interview.  It wasn't a military meeting.  Everyone comparing it to something else can just stop.  This was a kid that was ten minutes late to his evaluation.  Chastise the kid, make an example out of it, make him go last...there is lots of ways you could still teach the kid a lesson and not make him miss hunting season.  Now the kid has the late hunt ruined for him for the whole family, and  I am sure he is devastated....all because he was ten minutes late?  Give me a break.  Some of you need to get over yourselves.   

[salmonslayer]

You have a couple hundred bucks I can borrow? I'll pay you back Wednesday. I Promise I won't be late.

Worst analogy ever? 

[windygorge]

Wow the whole hollier than thou crowd is out tonight!
Should he have found a way to be there on time? Yes
Did the instructor have the right to turn them away? Yes
Is this the damn military? NO
Is this anybody's livelihood? NO

The point of the hunter Ed program should be to teach people safety the fundamentals of responsible hunting, and promote new people getting into our sport! Not whether or not they were a few minutes late, or made a mistake during their field evaluation. The "these are my rules" and you'll have to try again next year types do nothing but drive people away from our sport!  That kid that got turned away likely won't get to hunt this year, by next year with all of the other pressures and activities that kids have out there he may not want to go through that "crap" again and we've lost one more kid!

But by god rules are rules!

  

yep, the late nazi's are on this thread.  with no consideration for the topic nor reasoning, all they see in the post is the word "late".   military?    i have been in the military, but that doesn't mean i need to be closed minded because i was.  why are you late nazi's comparing this to those kind of things?  i am never late.  but that doesn't mean i haven't had reasons to be late, or that i shouldn't sympathize for those who are on occasion. 
i see preparation was an issue, but come on nazi's.  future hunters are what we are after, not tardiness discipline.

[gotshot]

I see the word late as the same as entitlement and nobody on this forum likes the word entitelment unless it serves thier purposes I guess.

[MIKEXRAY]

I was wondering if it stated " no late arrivals period "   when they signed up.  Someone being that strict probably put it out there up front in the class description or class sign up sheet.  Not saying he shouldn't of let them in or not but if he did advertise the rules , there would be a higher expectation to live by them.  Just curious.  Mike