Bad meeting with USFS officer

[HornHoarder]

Yeah, I agree what a crock of s**t. He was probably just trying to keep his family warm this winter.

[JLS]

C'mon Piano, it's the way the pitchfork crowd rolls around here.

[CedarPants]

A wood cutting violation is not grounds for the officer to cast aside professionalism and replace it with vulgar commentary about people having sex with their sister.

If it went down as you say it did - pay your fine and follow the law from now on, and file a complaint against this officer

[pianoman9701]

Yeah, I agree what a crock of s**t. He was probably just trying to keep his family warm this winter.

C'mon, really? What's a wood cutting permit, about $40 or less? He's feeding a truck to go get wood and he can't afford the permit? I don't buy it.

[bradslam]

I don't know if the officer was a jerk or not, but what do you expect when you are caught participating in an illegal activity?  As for your other comment, yes, it may be public property, but there needs to be certain regulations because there are too many ignorant people out there as well as people who don't give a damn about anything.  In the case of dead snags and downed trees, one of their vital purposes includes providing a home for nesting birds and bugs.  Animals, including bears and birds, eat the bugs.  Part of the circle of life.  There is a reason we have biologists who are involved in the process of making regulations. 

[pianoman9701]

A wood cutting violation is not grounds for the officer to cast aside professionalism and replace it with vulgar commentary about people having sex with their sister.

If it went down as you say it did - pay your fine and follow the law from now on, and file a complaint against this officer

I agree that there's no call for un-professionalism, but the fact that he willingly broke the law puts his whole post in question. How can you trust his word on the story about the USFS officer's actions when you know he started off knowingly breaking the law? It's a little like a guy suing the police for brutality after he resists arrest. I know it's not the same, but you get the idea. I'm a bit surprised someone would post this thread at all.

[CedarPants]

A wood cutting violation is not grounds for the officer to cast aside professionalism and replace it with vulgar commentary about people having sex with their sister.

If it went down as you say it did - pay your fine and follow the law from now on, and file a complaint against this officer

I agree that there's no call for un-professionalism, but the fact that he willingly broke the law puts his whole post in question. How can you trust his word on the story about the USFS officer's actions when you know he started off knowingly breaking the law? It's a little like a guy suing the police for brutality after he resists arrest. I know it's not the same, but you get the idea. I'm a bit surprised someone would post this thread at all.

Hence the "if it went down as you say it did" portion of my post 

[pianoman9701]

A wood cutting violation is not grounds for the officer to cast aside professionalism and replace it with vulgar commentary about people having sex with their sister.

If it went down as you say it did - pay your fine and follow the law from now on, and file a complaint against this officer

I agree that there's no call for un-professionalism, but the fact that he willingly broke the law puts his whole post in question. How can you trust his word on the story about the USFS officer's actions when you know he started off knowingly breaking the law? It's a little like a guy suing the police for brutality after he resists arrest. I know it's not the same, but you get the idea. I'm a bit surprised someone would post this thread at all.

Hence the "if it went down as you say it did" portion of my post 

I start off slow but then taper off. Thanks Cedar.

[Boss .300 winmag]

If you have the officers name make a complaint. I agree that even though you broke the law you still do not need to be treated that way. Pretty simple here's your ticket get on your way

I am pretty sure he has his name on that pieace of paper he got from him. 

If it's dead or on the ground wind fall who cares, free permits for all no limit, just pay an admin fee to get them.

[CedarPants]

A wood cutting violation is not grounds for the officer to cast aside professionalism and replace it with vulgar commentary about people having sex with their sister.

If it went down as you say it did - pay your fine and follow the law from now on, and file a complaint against this officer

I agree that there's no call for un-professionalism, but the fact that he willingly broke the law puts his whole post in question. How can you trust his word on the story about the USFS officer's actions when you know he started off knowingly breaking the law? It's a little like a guy suing the police for brutality after he resists arrest. I know it's not the same, but you get the idea. I'm a bit surprised someone would post this thread at all.

Hence the "if it went down as you say it did" portion of my post 

I start off slow but then taper off. Thanks Cedar.

 

[Southpole]

I agree that the officer was a real D-bag and acted unprofessionally (there is a match to him in Darrington). However, how many other guys like you has he come across cutting firewood illegally... you're are not the only guy cutting firewood illegally (especially in that area). This just gives him more ammo to be an A-hole and thinking that everyone around there really is  inbred. By the way, state and federal lands are not the people's land anymore, it's the "governments" land, the government in this country hasn't represented the people since the start of the Clinton area. More and more (especially on the westside) government agencies are making it more difficult and uncomfortable for citizens to be on "the people's" land for many different reasons, some of them are for obvious reasons like dumping garbage, cooking drugs, poaching, cutting firewood illegally, and some other reasons we'll never know.

[pianoman9701]

I agree that the officer was a real D-bag and acted unprofessionally (there is a match to him in Darrington). However, how many other guys like you has he come across cutting firewood illegally... you're are not the only guy cutting firewood illegally (especially in that area). This just gives him more ammo to be an A-hole and thinking that everyone around there really is  inbred. By the way, state and federal lands are not the people's land anymore, it's the "governments" land, the government in this country hasn't represented the people since the start of the Clinton area. More and more (especially on the westside) government agencies are making it more difficult and uncomfortable for citizens to be on "the people's" land for many different reasons, some of them are for obvious reasons like dumping garbage, cooking drugs, poaching, cutting firewood illegally, and some other reasons we'll never know.

I've never had a problem with USFS officials. I hunt the GPNF and have for about 20 years. They've come into camp to check the safety of the fire and this year, to keep us apprised of the fire danger from the Cascade Creek fire. I understand there are jerks working in every occupation. I just haven't seen them personally in the USFS. Maybe if I had been cutting without a permit, my experience would've been different.

[ICEMAN]

Cutting wood without a permit....same as taking game without a permit IMHO.

This is theft of natural resources.

Pay the fine and walk away.

Learn from this and put yourself back up on the highroad.

[Gundy]

Glad to know Gundy was just joking. I have had a few what they call coutesy checks by the USFS/WDFW/County Sheriff all in ones and it has been my experience they are A-holes. The one up by Stevens Pass is a real peice of work. Won't give them the time of day.

Couldnt be more serious.... Everyone on here will whine and cry if someons behind a locked gate or riding a quad or road hunting but this guys GETS CAUGHT CUTTING WOOD IN A NO CUTTING AREA and its cool cuz the officer was a big meanie....LOL... how bout this.... cut wood where your supposed to and you wont have to worry bout the FS meanie hurtn yo feewings....

[Mike450r]

uh oh,  the mean man with the badge was rude.  And if what he said is true that employees in the Republic office are tipping people off so they have a better chance at getting away with illegal wood cutting he has a right to be pissed about it and people should be losing their jobs.