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I'll go against the grain here, just to offer a different opinion. I've had the G 20 and 29, but sold them both. They have all the advantages of any other Glock, and all of the disadvantages as well. If you can comfortably wrap your hand around them, they can be great guns. For me, they never pointed as well as a revolver or 1911. I didn't like the unsupported chamber on the Glock. That's easy to fix with a replacement barrel though. I was never happy with how well they shot when compared to a revolver. The 10mm, while not a lowball caliber by any means, is hardly the ultimate bear stopper. With the heavy loads available it can certainly put a serious hurt on whatever is out there, but nothing that a 41, 44, 45colt or other large caliber revolver couldn't accomplish with ease.Once you get the gun and 16 rounds of ammo, it's starting get a little on the heavy side. I would rather go with a scandium/titanium revolver in 41 or 44 mag. 5 or six shots from a 41 or 44 will be every bit as effective as 16 from a 10mm.I don't have anything against the G20, I just thought I'd share some of the reasons I've found not to carry the G20 as a woods gun.Andrew
I'm just saying from the people I have been in contact with. 16 rounds of 220 grain at 1200 fps at 800 ft lbs of energy
I can offer some insight, and some opinion.For several years, I carried a 45 colt revolver on my hip when in bear country, those years were spent in Alaska.The bears can be bigger, and they do like to take food from lesser creatures!During nearly a decade filled with fishing and hunting, only one time did I feel the need to ready my weapon.Surprised a cub (brownie) in a creek and it howled and ran off. Put down fishing pole and shouldered 12ga.- the "don't leave home without it" gun. Then the mama bear popped out of the bushes next to the creek, woofed, and beat feet, followed by two more cubs.Many people say, always throw the heaviest bullet- that's why the .45 / 12ga combo worked for my peace of mind.But, a bit more on topic, the Washington outdoors seems much less likely to offer a brown bear situation, so moving down in power to a 45acp seemed safe. Problem with the 45acp is, there are many better handgun loads for a "plan B" hunting weapon if your rifle isn't available, and you have to use what you have on hand.So, back to a hi powered revolver, yes, and no.For most, to be balanced and accurate, a large framed -heavy- revolver helps keep practice enjoyable and therefore supports a higher skill level with same. I've grown tired of lugging around a 4-5lbs revolver. The next handgun, maybe the last, I get for all-around use, will be something like this:Quote from: NW-GSP on January 11, 2013, 09:35:33 PMI'm just saying from the people I have been in contact with. 16 rounds of 220 grain at 1200 fps at 800 ft lbs of energyHey 10mm fans, are there other commonly available pistols chambered in 10mm besides the excellent but somewhat rare Colt Delta Elite, or Glock?Maybe a good pistol smith could build one on a 1911 style frame and one wouldn't be putting the "character" marks on a nice Colt.I like the Glock, but prefer 1911 platform. The 10mm looks to be a great choice as a fight stopper. Isn't that what the round was originally developed for?
Witness makes a 10mm that is pretty slick too.
its a gun that i can use to send very large chunks of lead with good velocity at my target with confidence. isnt that what matters? at least for open carry.
Quote from: high country on January 12, 2013, 07:15:56 AMWitness makes a 10mm that is pretty slick too.I had an EAA Witness 10mm. It was a piece of junk. Jammed all the time. Sent it in for warrenty 2 times and it came back worse.
Hey 10mm fans, are there other commonly available pistols chambered in 10mm besides the excellent but somewhat rare Colt Delta Elite, or Glock?Maybe a good pistol smith could build one on a 1911 style frame and one wouldn't be putting the "character" marks on a nice Colt.I like the Glock, but prefer 1911 platform. The 10mm looks to be a great choice as a fight stopper. Isn't that what the round was originally developed for?
Quote from: 7mmstalker on January 11, 2013, 11:25:39 PMHey 10mm fans, are there other commonly available pistols chambered in 10mm besides the excellent but somewhat rare Colt Delta Elite, or Glock?Maybe a good pistol smith could build one on a 1911 style frame and one wouldn't be putting the "character" marks on a nice Colt.I like the Glock, but prefer 1911 platform. The 10mm looks to be a great choice as a fight stopper. Isn't that what the round was originally developed for?The Kimber Eclipse is a great gun, so are the Dan Wesson 1911s. I've had a 10mm Eclipse and a Dan Wesson CCBT, and Razor Back in 10mm. To me, they were better in every way than the Glock. They were more accurate, carried better, and pointed better for me. Of course there is the price issue with any 10mm 1911. Most of them start at around $1000.The Glock is a good gun and a great combination of price, quality, firepower, and reliability. I just believe that there should be more emphasis on the effectiveness of the initial shot on target instead of the subsequent 15 shots. If multiple targets are involved (like a herd of rabid chipmunks ) the Glock would show an obvious advantage. In the event of black bear or cougar after you I would be concerned with having the most effective first shot possible. Everything after that is likely just noise.Andrew
Since we just rolled to 45's I like the Rowland, but muzzle flash is an issue. I rock 45 supers often in the bear backup rig. Thinking that you will get 16 rounds off is ludicrous.....unless you piss your pants and start flinging from 70 yards. I will spend an extra half second to get #1 off true.
