Jealous Hunters piss me off!!!!!!

[NoBark]

Perhaps when all is said and done a reciprical effort for "false reporting of a crime" could be in the offing.

[Ray]

I've seen more accusations around waterfowl season than anything else though. In those situations I would find something much more believable.

[Gobble]

Maybe we have a butcher or taxi who actually found 'something that didn't look right' and noticfied the Game warden?

Unlikely that someone from the butcher shop or taxi saw him with a spotlight and a gun shooting the bull. A lot more likely someone saw some action in the woods and drew too many conclusions. Happened to a friend of mine this year.

They can tell if a animal was shot at night with spotlights because the pupils freeze in place and thats why the game dept checks for that at game stops. A guy in a game check in front of me in E wa. shot a nice 7 x 7 buck, but the game dept checked the eyes and confirmed that it was shot at night, beside the idiot had an archery tag and shot it with a rifle during the modern season. What an idiot

[Ray]

Seems like weak evidence (pupils freezing) to me. I'd bet any half decent attorney could argue that off and even conclude that there are scenarios where that could happen. Here's an idea - as the "sun rose" over the hill at daybreak and right into the deer's eyes or something like that.

[Muleyslyr]

Why would the warden accuse him without any evidence or suspicion.  What's in it for him.  Unless he's just an *censored*....doesn't really make any sense to me.  I too think the butcher or taxidermist saw something that just didn't look right.  Not accusing....just trying to make sense of it.

[Ray]

They were accusing someone I know of illegal actions without evidence (sort of they were actually fishing for identity publicly at a large meeting of hunters with the presumption that someone was illegaly baiting bears). All based on "word". No surprise to me. I don't know this guy or that warden and I am not sticking up for anyone here just sayin...

[Muleyslyr]

Seems like weak evidence (pupils freezing) to me. I'd bet any half decent attorney could argue that off and even conclude that there are scenarios where that could happen. Her'es an idea - as the "sun rose" over the hill at daybreak and right into the deer's eyes or something like that.

Especially if he was in the timber, which it looked like he was, maybe his eyes had not gotten acclimated to first light.  Just because it's daylight doesn't mean it's nice and bright in the thick stuff.    Don't know...never really checked out the pupils on any of my "first light" harvests.

[Ray]

To be honest I'll even go a step further (admitting total ignorance on the pupils part though) and say that sounds more like a bully tactic to me. But I am open to learning how good of evidence it is as well.

[Curly]

They can tell if a animal was shot at night with spotlights because the pupils freeze in place and thats why the game dept checks for that at game stops.

Just one more reason not to take game to a butcher....................although, I realize in this case, this guy had to take the elk to a butcher because he was flying out of state and didn't have time to butcher it himself.

[pendoreilleadventures]

My friend is going to put an editoral in the local paper letting people know that the game dept is full of liar's. The thing is the warden is just fishing for some reason in Pend oreille county if you are in the woods and hunt you are a poacher in the eyes of the game dept and have to prove that you haven't done any thing wrong the game department always tries to get people to fess up to thing they didn't do. It's crap. My friend DIDNOT POACH THIS ELK!!!!!!! it was 100% legal. The game warden is a flat out liar hoping to get lucky and get a case against a guy who does it by the book. I got in trouble a few years ago by the game dept. because I was hunting with my uncle he is disabled and has a companion card I was carrying a rifle and I bow hunt. But the law says I can do that if I am helping my uncle try to take his deer. I told the game warden that I was a bow hunter and that I was hunt for my uncle he wrote me a ticket for illegally hunting deer without a modern firearms tag. I told him it was bull *censored* and he said that If i had a problem with it to take it up with the court. so I did took it to court the judge laughed and dropped the charges. another one of my friends this spring right after turkey season had his shotgun in the gun rack of his truck. and a turkey slate call on his floor board. He was out cutting firewood the game warden pulled up and started talking to him and seen the shotgun and started trying to get my buddy to admit he was poaching turkeys it to bad that our game dept. has to conduct themselves in such a manner it is a real disappointment.

[Black Ghost]

This is a pretty typical tactic by our game department.  It happened to me too, By the dearly departed Officer Jesky.  Long story short, they fish until you make a mistake and say something stupid.

[ICEMAN]

Advise them that you are willing to take a lie detector test to support your claim, after which you will be filing a wrongful seizure of your trophy and meat.

[DOUBLELUNG]

There is much more to this story that needs to come out.

Did he come back from his new residence in OK to hunt on the resident license he purchased prior to moving?  Or did he buy that expensive nonresident elk license?  If the former, I believe he's toast.  If he has OK resident hunting or fishing licenses, he IS toast.

I am highly doubtful the meat and antlers were seized for no reason at all, or based merely on someone's say-so.  If that's true, that will be a short career in wildlife enforcement.  Everyone hates poachers - even poachers.  Nobody likes to be arrested.  It is perfectly ok for a game warden to lie to get incriminating information from a suspect.  It is absolutely not allowed to seize animals, equipment or anything else without evidence a crime has been committed.  If you are in the right, and any kind of cop seizes your property (and once tagged, harvested game IS your property), fight like hell - administratively and legally.

Let us know how this plays out, I'm interested.  If he's truly in the right, I hope he perseveres and straightens it out.  However, if he broke the law, intentionally or otherwise, what is happening is exactly what is supposed to happen.

[jackelope]

Let us know how this plays out, I'm interested.  If he's truly in the right, I hope he perseveres and straightens it out.  However, if he broke the law, intentionally or otherwise, what is happening is exactly what is supposed to happen.

 

[RightPlace-RightTime]

When taking meat in, cut it up yourself and bring only meat in and tags are not required.  My neighbor is a butcher.