Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.

[HornHoarder]

I havent read all 15 pages, but when did Bobcat become a wolf lover  Seems like he has been trying to defend them, and the WDFW this entire thread.

[Ridgeratt]

I havent read all 15 pages, but when did Bobcat become a wolf lover  Seems like he has been trying to defend them, and the WDFW this entire thread.

Horn Hoader your the man!!

[Elkaholic daWg]

In 2009 when WDFW bought the rest of the Golden Doe ranch, the first thing they did was release wolves on it. And the first thing their wolves did was kill a cow and a calf.

Source?

 Read it slower....you may see it

[Special T]

I think BC may just feel that the WDFW isn't responsible for every animal. I would think of him as the Devils Advocate! 

[CastleRocker]

WDFW IS responsible for EVERY animal in this state.  I've been told that personally by them.  "All animals belong to the State of Washington" is what I was told. 

The state has always paid for crop damage due to elk/deer.  They also will pay for damage by beavers if it is documented properly.  They give out damage control permits for elk that eat too much hay and alfalfa, and for bears that eat too many apples/pears.     

I'm sure they will eventually also pay for any vet bills, and any and all livestock damage done by wolves.

I should say, "we the taxpayers of this state" will pay.  Heck we bought and planted these non-native wolf species in the first place!

It's almost time to move back to AK.

[wolfbait]

I just got off the phone with John Stevie, he told me that Donny Martorello called him today. Donny said he had heard at first that it was a cougar attack, but now he knows for sure that it was a wolf attack. He also said that they would be paying John's vet bill on his dog. He said they didn't have  funds yet for taking care of  wolf attacks on domestic pets but that they would be working on it. Donny was real polite and said he was sorry this had happened to his dog. He also said he knew that the Methow Valley had more wolves then was being reported.

John said a USFS guy said he had heard it was a cougar attack also, John told him what I just told you. The USFS guy said when he finds out who switch this attack from a wolf to a cougar he would make sure whoever was responsible would be looking for a new job.
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Fitkin can always go to work for Conservation NW full time, and then there's Defenders of wolflies which seem to like people who use to work for the USFWS.

[CastleRocker]

Good to hear the the dog's owner won't have to pay all those bills. 

[smdave]

Full story here..
http://www.methowvalleynews.com/story.php?id=9586

Thanks hirshey, glad to see something in print besides just the story on here. Sort of validifies the story for the naysayers. 

Yeah because it was not posted on page 14 reply #202

[hirshey]

Full story here..
http://www.methowvalleynews.com/story.php?id=9586

Thanks hirshey, glad to see something in print besides just the story on here. Sort of validifies the story for the naysayers. 

Yeah because it was not posted on page 14 reply #202

Easy on the sarcasim! I generally like mine with a side of playfulness or jest. 

Didn't see the article from Omak, thanks for posting.

[hirshey]

I just got off the phone with John Stevie, he told me that Donny Martorello called him today. Donny said he had heard at first that it was a cougar attack, but now he knows for sure that it was a wolf attack. He also said that they would be paying John's vet bill on his dog. He said they didn't have  funds yet for taking care of  wolf attacks on domestic pets but that they would be working on it. Donny was real polite and said he was sorry this had happened to his dog. He also said he knew that the Methow Valley had more wolves then was being reported.

John said a USFS guy said he had heard it was a cougar attack also, John told him what I just told you. The USFS guy said when he finds out who switch this attack from a wolf to a cougar he would make sure whoever was responsible would be looking for a new job.
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Fitkin can always go to work for Conservation NW full time, and then there's Defenders of wolflies which seem to like people who use to work for the USFWS.

Great info, thanks for sharing!

[Curly]

I haven't read all 15 pages, but when did Bobcat become a wolf lover  Seems like he has been trying to defend them, and the WDFW this entire thread.

I can say for sure Bobcat is no wolf lover.  WDFW and the commission both dropped the ball on the wolf issue and I know he agrees that the wolf plan is bad........

If he can be convinced that the State had anything to do with reintroducing wolves, I know he will change his tune.  I will have to re-read wolfbait's post and links and see if I can see where it says that WDFW introduced wolves.

(Sometimes I think he just enjoys an argument).  

[mkcj]

So I wrote this on the methow valley bulletin board thought I would post it here also.


So here is my take on this, My experience with wolves are only from moose hunting in Canada for many years with my dad and his stories, He hunted 42 years in a row with our friend Tommy a first nation guide. A full grown moose or horse are no match for a wolf pack Tommy (our friend/guide) lost many many horses over the years to wolves but no one lived where we hunted. My experience in the valley is rather short compared to others here we have only had our place here for 46 years, But the difference in the 2 places are worlds apart in wolf terms, In the valley during the winter months the wolf's main food supply (mule deer) are driven down to the valley floor right into people's back yards like it or not, Now right now there are 2 wolf's in the area ( if you believe WDFW) what will it be like when there are 30-50 living around Twisp? Remember all their food is in your back yard 4-5 months a year. The valley is not like Montana or Wyoming! My boys and I hunt on a 100,000 acre ranch in Wyoming each year. How many ranch's in the valley are there like that with vast acres of nothing but grass and cattle (along with 1000's of Deer and Antelope)? 0! This Man's pet is only the start, It's too bad the deer where just coming back into some healthy number's here!
 

[Smossy]

blah blah blah blah blah 

[boneaddict]

They are NO WHERE NEAR the number of wolves in the valley in their cute little counts.   Its interesting looking at the slopes along lookout which would historically hold hundreds and hundreds of deer this time of year.   Now there are fewer than what you can count on your two hands.   BRILLIANT!

Good to know they are going to take care of him Wolfbait.   Make sure you keep "wolfbait" fenced on your front porch becasue it is your responsibility you know.

[villageidiot]

I hate to say it but it almost appears that WDFW or more specifically Donny Moratello is trying to rebuild the credibility of the department.  I believe he made the call to take out the Wedge Pack and now he has come forward extremely fast and investigated this dog attack and confirmed it was a wolf.  Don't forget that he is getting hammered by thousands of bunny huggers but he might actually be trying to do the right thing instead of appease the greenies for once.  WDFW over the past few years has severely hurt their reputation by not responding and trying to sweep all the wolf reports under the table.  It seems at present they are at an all time low on public (hunters and ranchers) opinion and trust.  I think we need to give WDFW or more especially Donny some credit for taking a stand and stepping up to the plate.  I can't imagine how many of the greenies have called them about taking out the Wedge Pack and they are standing their ground and in fact are saying they may have to do it again.  Put yourself in their shoes and see how much hatred they are getting for actually doing something that works.  Now if they would come forward and support this law that was passed in the house to allow pet owners and livestock owners to shoot a wolf for attacking their animals this would be a enormous step to restoring our trust in their intentions.   I do believe they are starting to get our attention so lets see what road they take.  Just sayin!